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Plural -j

di Français, 21 gennaio 2009

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Lingua: English

Français (Mostra il profilo) 21 gennaio 2009 01:06:21

Saluton!

For some reason when I say things plural in Esperanto, it seems to slow my speech. Especially if it is something with multiple plurals in a row, like three things in a sentence.

Does this happen to most, or is it just me? I don't have this problem with Ido and their plural, but maybe that is because Ido is easier for me at the moment due to studies, then Esperanto.

RiotNrrd (Mostra il profilo) 21 gennaio 2009 02:22:30

I have not noticed it slowing my speech. On the other hand, I'm from the west coast of the US - we speak pretty slowly over here to begin with.

ceigered (Mostra il profilo) 21 gennaio 2009 05:18:42

I'm inclined to believe Esperanto is naturally a slower tongue than others.

And plus, when you speak in Esperanto you are trying to be understood as a learner by learners, whereas when you speak English or Japanese or German you're trying to be understood as a speaker by native speakers.

Rogir (Mostra il profilo) 21 gennaio 2009 13:36:15

I think you can pronounce words with final -j almost as fast as without them, I think you're slowing down because you're not used to it yet, whereas Ido, I've heard, uses an -s ending like English and French.

ceigered (Mostra il profilo) 21 gennaio 2009 15:05:26

Rogir:I think you can pronounce words with final -j almost as fast as without them, I think you're slowing down because you're not used to it yet, whereas Ido, I've heard, uses an -s ending like English and French.
Ido (well, the main one at least) uses 'i', for instance viro -> viri. And because of that their infinitive is something involving '-ar' or something like that. Present, Past and future are the same, and imperative is -ez. So no out of place -s as far as I know.

Français (Mostra il profilo) 21 gennaio 2009 19:08:38

Rogir:I think you can pronounce words with final -j almost as fast as without them, I think you're slowing down because you're not used to it yet, whereas Ido, I've heard, uses an -s ending like English and French.
No, Ido changes the ending "o" to an "i" to denote plural.. Like Italian masculine words I think.

Eng - Dog -- Dogs
Esp - Hundo -- Hondoj
Ido - Hundo -- Hundi

So, you change the "o" to an "i", which personally I really like because it sounds really nice. Whereas the "oy" and "eye" sound of Esperanto are not all that pleasing to me... But I haven't heard a lot of Esperanto.. If anyone has any good links to places where I can hear Esperanto being spoken, I would appreciate!

Français (Mostra il profilo) 21 gennaio 2009 19:11:26

ceigered:I'm inclined to believe Esperanto is naturally a slower tongue than others.

And plus, when you speak in Esperanto you are trying to be understood as a learner by learners, whereas when you speak English or Japanese or German you're trying to be understood as a speaker by native speakers.
Yes, I think Esperanto is pretty slow tongue too. I think it's because a lot of the word structures have like complex consonants. Like when I like at a big body of Esperanto, it is very hard for me to just skim through it. It looks like a bunch of clogged letters. Funny though, because when I read it, it is very phonetical and easy! ridulo.gif

melanija (Mostra il profilo) 21 gennaio 2009 19:23:25

Here's one place you can hear Esperanto being spoken:

http://www.polskieradio.pl/eo/

And it doesn't sound slow at all when they speak it! ridulo.gif

Français (Mostra il profilo) 22 gennaio 2009 00:08:44

melanija:Here's one place you can hear Esperanto being spoken:

http://www.polskieradio.pl/eo/

And it doesn't sound slow at all when they speak it! ridulo.gif
Dankon!!!!!! sal.gif

Thanks so much for the link, I look very forward to checking it out!! ridulo.gif

orthohawk (Mostra il profilo) 22 gennaio 2009 00:15:11

Français:
melanija:Here's one place you can hear Esperanto being spoken:

http://www.polskieradio.pl/eo/

And it doesn't sound slow at all when they speak it! ridulo.gif
Dankon!!!!!! sal.gif

Thanks so much for the link, I look very forward to checking it out!! ridulo.gif
Another good 'cast is Radio Verda with our very own Arono Chapman. Very crisp enunciation.

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