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Diversity in the course

จาก ahstro_, 4 กุมภาพันธ์ 2020

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ahstro_ (แสดงโปรไฟล์) 4 กุมภาพันธ์ 2020, 13:25:32

I'm working through the course and I keep being made a little bit uncomfortable about the lack of diversity in the images. All pictures I can remember are of white/light-skinned, skinny, able bodied, more or less classically good-looking people, which feels out of place since Esperanto is a language used by all kinds of people all over the world. Has anyone else thought about this, or is it just me?

Zam_franca (แสดงโปรไฟล์) 5 กุมภาพันธ์ 2020, 06:13:53

ahstro_:I'm working through the course and I keep being made a little bit uncomfortable about the lack of diversity in the images. All pictures I can remember are of white/light-skinned, skinny, able bodied, more or less classically good-looking people, which feels out of place since Esperanto is a language used by all kinds of people all over the world. Has anyone else thought about this, or is it just me?
The Filipos have japanese origins, Lunjo is from Brazil... And sometimes we can see pictures like this, with "diversity" : https://lernu.net/kurso/nakamura/26/1

I don't see discriminations in the course actually.

ahstro_ (แสดงโปรไฟล์) 5 กุมภาพันธ์ 2020, 10:11:54

Zam_franca:The Filipos have japanese origins, Lunjo is from Brazil... And sometimes we can see pictures like this, with "diversity" : https://lernu.net/kurso/nakamura/26/1
I can't see that image because I'm not on lesson 26 yet, but fingers crossed it gets better.

Zam_franca:I don't see discriminations in the course actually.
I don't think there's discrimination, just a lack of diversity which is natural since a lot of us are used to just seeing "normative" bodies in media, and that will mirror in the art we create unless we make the conscious effort to move away from it.

Zam_franca (แสดงโปรไฟล์) 5 กุมภาพันธ์ 2020, 16:41:37

ahstro_:
Zam_franca:The Filipos have japanese origins, Lunjo is from Brazil... And sometimes we can see pictures like this, with "diversity" : https://lernu.net/kurso/nakamura/26/1
I can't see that image because I'm not on lesson 26 yet, but fingers crossed it gets better.

Zam_franca:I don't see discriminations in the course actually.
I don't think there's discrimination, just a lack of diversity which is natural since a lot of us are used to just seeing "normative" bodies in media, and that will mirror in the art we create unless we make the conscious effort to move away from it.
I don't really see lacks of diversity in the course or anything like that. It is aiming to teach Esperanto to perhaps everybody actually. Esperanto, "la bunteca lingvo!" ridulo.gif.

In fact I made some researches, and I found some pictures showing "diversity" : https://lernu.net/kurso/nakamura/16/9, https://lernu.net/kurso/nakamura/11/16, ktp

And there is also a reference to something from 2012 in the course that now has completely gone, and that turned into something new... and wicked. Alack!

novatago (แสดงโปรไฟล์) 10 กุมภาพันธ์ 2020, 11:42:07

ahstro_:Has anyone else thought about this, or is it just me?
No, because that's a stupid personal obsession. Does it really matter? No. If all the roles of the course were green aliens with no "diversity" at all, nobody would complaint. This is same. And anyway that wouldn't make the course nor better, nor worse, it's impossible to include every "diversity" and ridiculous to try it.

If the target of the course were to teach diversity and all the people on it were nuns from Madagascar with "perfect" sensual bodies, I would think about to complaint, but it's not even a similar case.

And finally, you talk about what are we used to see in media. Actually, the (likely) european people who created the course are not likely to see in media a lot of japanese people, or brazilian people, and a lot of people on the pictures are not even young, and they don't have a six pack "belly", and the story happens in a future where probably there is less "diversity" because medicine science could solve some kind of problems.

Really, I just don't want creators to get obsessed with this kind of questions. I want them to create what they really want to create as they really want create it.

Ĝis, Novatago (blogo / 7 + 1)

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