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Pronunciation of sur

de Bemused, 2012-januaro-01

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Bemused (Montri la profilon) 2012-januaro-01 05:31:03

Hi
Does anyone have any tips on how to say "sur" without it sounding like "sewer"?
Cheers

cFlat7 (Montri la profilon) 2012-januaro-01 07:54:31

I'd suggest making sure the 'U' vowel is spoken fairly short and only one sylable long and not stretched out as is common with us english language speakers (esp. British and Southern US). Otherwise it does sort of come out as 'SU-er', instead of the desired 'SUR'.

Miland (Montri la profilon) 2012-januaro-01 12:04:06

If this helps, try making the "r" more definite, as Scots might, without saying it like "uh".

cFlat7 (Montri la profilon) 2012-januaro-01 16:27:17

Miland:If this helps, try making the "r" more definite, as Scots might, without saying it like "uh".
Good point. It would be useful if there was a YouTube video/recording of this distinction.

robinast (Montri la profilon) 2012-januaro-01 16:49:14

This (pronunciation of the Spanish word 'sur') might be helpful as well...

sudanglo (Montri la profilon) 2012-januaro-01 23:27:11

The 'ur' sounds fine in the link, Robinast, but the speaker seems to be pronouncing the 's' more like Esperanto's 'c'.

I wonder if it would be helpful to suggest practising with the word 'urso' first, as with this word an English speaker might be less tempted into a dipthong.

robinast (Montri la profilon) 2012-januaro-02 11:40:00

sudanglo:The 'ur' sounds fine in the link, Robinast, but the speaker seems to be pronouncing the 's' more like Esperanto's 'c'.
Yes? My ear catches a clear difference... Indeed, the 's' sounds pretty hard - but as much as I can hear, not too hard and clearly distinct from Esperanto's 'c'. True enough, I have not heard spoken Esperanto that much - mainly by Esperanta Retradio, so I can not be counted as an expert. rideto.gif

erinja (Montri la profilon) 2012-januaro-02 14:11:13

Surely one must only pronounce the name of Suri Cruise, without the i and the end, and rolling the r, right? Or pronounce "ruse" backwards.

The pure u in "sur" isn't frequently found in English but some words seem to have it, regardless of accent. lose, Susie, ruse.

cFlat7 (Montri la profilon) 2012-januaro-02 15:45:42

erinja:Surely one must only pronounce the name of Suri Cruise, without the i and the end, and rolling the r, right? Or pronounce "ruse" backwards.

The pure u in "sur" isn't frequently found in English but some words seem to have it, regardless of accent. lose, Susie, ruse.
Of course, "ruse" backwards would be pronounced "zur" so remember to convert the "z" to "s".

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