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If Lernu does it this way

viết bởi EoMy, Ngày 18 tháng 10 năm 2012

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EoMy (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 13:18:59 Ngày 18 tháng 10 năm 2012

The new Lernu site which is going to be launched soon if it does it this way, that is, inactive members for 6 months would be automatically erased from the site. I think it would not have 10 thounsands on the site.

There are many inactive ones and channel no new ideas and acti nothing for the esperanto world. It is better to see some active ones go on.

If the member who have learnt Esperanto from the site and do not feel like to be coming home again, fine, they can choose not to be here.

This is my two cents.

gianich73 (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 14:13:24 Ngày 18 tháng 10 năm 2012

EoMy:The new Lernu site which is going to be launched soon if it does it this way, that is, inactive members for 6 months would be automatically erased from the site. I think it would not have 10 thounsands on the site.

There are many inactive ones and channel no new ideas and acti nothing for the esperanto world. It is better to see some active ones go on.

If the member who have learnt Esperanto from the site and do not feel like to be coming home again, fine, they can choose not to be here.

This is my two cents.
Any ideas for keeping those people active?
Cxu vi havas ajnajn ideojn por fari ke cxi-tiuj personoj estu aktivaj?

EoMy (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 03:11:46 Ngày 20 tháng 10 năm 2012

Any ideas for keeping those people active?
Cxu vi havas ajnajn ideojn por fari ke cxi-tiuj personoj estu aktivaj?[/quote]I think Lernu is similiar to the school, once you graduate and you seldom go back to the alma mater.

They might have gone into other fields to promote esperanto or even start with esperanto businesses.

This is what I feel happy about it as more and more people are using Lernu to learn the international language. They do not return often does not mean that they are not doing anything for Esperanto.

It would be best to keep those active ones here to help the novice to learn better. I was in a situation as a beginner that I sent out almost 50 internal mails and received no reply.

How a beginner would look forward to communicate within the site but to no avail. Of course, there are other channels to go for but within Lernu, it is good that the helper can direct to the site within the lernu, it makes learning simple and quick.

A small group does not mean it is not functioning well, any researchers would not believe the numurical shown on the page of it. If the page shows 10 thounsand hits a day is better than a unrelistic 10 thousand users.

Spending an hour or so, sifting through the account, you can see some even have the same name for two accounts and some never log in for years, as there is a last visit date.

Just similiar to facebook by saying billions of people are using it, perhaps, this is American style but with many passing away and the number still remained in facebook account.

I think the facebook like of lernu speaks better picture of it.

tommjames (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 09:06:44 Ngày 20 tháng 10 năm 2012

EoMy:inactive members for 6 months would be automatically erased from the site
Is that really the plan??? If so, I think that's a very poor idea.

SPX (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 16:52:40 Ngày 20 tháng 10 năm 2012

I would like to have some way to know how many active vs inactive members the site has, but I don't see a reason to remove accounts, especially after only six months. Esperanto is the kind of thing that you might work on for a while and then put it down for a year before picking it back up.

It would be a good idea to separate out accounts as either "active" or "inactive," based upon the last date of activity, but there's no reason to make a person lose all their PMs, course progress markers, etc. and have to re-register just because it's been a while since they were last on the site.

bartlett22183 (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 17:11:14 Ngày 20 tháng 10 năm 2012

One question is what constitutes an active member. Is it sufficient merely to login from time to time, or must one also post, take an exam, send a postcard or personal message, etc., to be considered an active member?

SPX (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 17:17:46 Ngày 20 tháng 10 năm 2012

I would think that as long as you are doing SOMETHING on the site then you're active. Even if you're just lurking on the forum you are here and using the site in some way, presumably to further your understanding of Esperanto.

darkweasel (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 17:31:37 Ngày 20 tháng 10 năm 2012

tommjames:
EoMy:inactive members for 6 months would be automatically erased from the site
Is that really the plan??? If so, I think that's a very poor idea.
I don't think it is really planned, and I agree with you.

There are two reasons to implement such a system:
  • Disk/database space: however, I do not think lernu! suffers from such extreme space problems.
  • Making already-used nicknames usable by new users - however I do not think this is a big concern here either. Also, the current system does not even support using a nickname a deleted user had used (at least that is what the own account deletion form says).
Otherwise, I do not see any reason why somebody would want to delete inactive accounts.

erinja (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 02:28:41 Ngày 21 tháng 10 năm 2012

There are no plans to delete inactive users from the site.

Some people register an account and stay inactive for years, then come back and use the site again. We definitely don't want to delete inactive users.

Repetition of usernames is not likely to be allowed. We don't want anyone to impersonate another user whose account has been deleted.

Some inactive accounts have been removed just to clean up our database. When I say inactive, I mean accounts created, for example, in 2007 or 2008, whose account owners haven't logged in even one time after registering the account. If you have ever used your account, even once, it won't be deleted. We deal with database space restrictions by limiting the amount of correspondence that users can keep (your old sent and received messages are deleted automatically, unless you mark them as something you want to keep).

The user search tool allows you to search using activity level. It is easy to contact only active users, simply by choosing an activity level that isn't zero.

However, if you want to find someone to correspond with, using the user search tool and sending many messages is not a good way to do that. Many active users have no interest in corresponding in Esperanto. I generally do not respond to messages like that, because I am too busy for it. If you wish to find people who are interested in corresponding with you in Esperanto, it is better to post a message to a forum to ask, rather than sending private messages.

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