Mesaĝoj: 8
Lingvo: English
DaDane (Montri la profilon) 2008-julio-23 16:04:57
1) What's the word with most suffixes (or perhaps pre- and suffixes) you have seen?
2) Can you come up with suggestions for words where you can change the order of the suffixes to make the words mean something different.
I guess this will not work (mi estas komencanto de Esperanto) but I hope you understand my meaning anyway
Vir-o - Man
Vir-eg-o - A big man
Vir-eg-in-o - A big woman
Vir-o - Man
Vir-in-o - Woman
Vir-in-eg-o - A very feminine woman (well guess not, - but it's a try).
mnlg (Montri la profilon) 2008-julio-23 16:16:59
DaDane:1) What's the word with most suffixes (or perhaps pre- and suffixes) you have seen?Can't remember. But whatever it is, anyone could top it by adding another suffix
2) Can you come up with suggestions for words where you can change the order of the suffixes to make the words mean something different.manĝaĵetujo = a container for snacks
manĝaĵujeto = a small container for food.
erinja (Montri la profilon) 2008-julio-23 17:17:12
DaDane:I would say that a "vir/eg/ino" would be a feminine large man. I think that a "vir/in/eg/o" is a big woman.
Vir-o - Man
Vir-eg-o - A big man
Vir-eg-in-o - A big woman
As for a very feminine woman, I would do it as two separate words. "inega virino" or something.
In general, follow the order of the suffixes to get the meaning.
vir= man
virego = a man who is large
viregino = a large man who is feminine (truthfully, this word doesn't really make any sense to me)
Similarly, the famous word "malsanulejo" (hospital)
sana = healthy
MALsana = unhealthy
malsanULo = unhealthy person
malsanulEJo = unhealthy person place (hospital)
mvk20 (Montri la profilon) 2008-julio-23 19:28:19
malsanulejo: unhealthy person place (hospital)
malsanejulo: unhealthy place person? maybe a person that lives in an unhealthy place like perhaps in an article talking about the effects of living in places with lots of pollution or something like that??
Let me know what you think...
erinja (Montri la profilon) 2008-julio-23 19:43:08
mvk20:malsanejulo: unhealthy place person? maybe a person that lives in an unhealthy place like perhaps in an article talking about the effects of living in places with lots of pollution or something like that??This makes sense to me. Although working this from the opposite direction, a person living in an unhealthy place, I might call a "malsanejano". The -ul- place usually means that being an unhealthy place characterizes the person. Maybe this person makes the place they are in unhealthy? It's a hard call, though. You can't always think of a good meaning for every set of roots (which makes Esperanto scrabble an interesting game, in which you convince people that whatever word you came up with makes sense!)
Let me know what you think...
mnlg (Montri la profilon) 2008-julio-23 22:36:37
DaDane:Vir-o - ManMy interpretation is quite straightforward and it follows the (inverse) order of the suffixes.
Vir-eg-o - A big man
Vir-eg-in-o - A big woman
Vir-o - Man
Vir-in-o - Woman
Vir-in-eg-o - A very feminine woman (well guess not, - but it's a try).
Virinego = an extreme version of a female version of a man.
Viregino = a female version of an extreme version of a man.
I consider these two words to be basically the same. The difference is to me mostly related to the emphasis you want to give.
trojo (Montri la profilon) 2008-julio-24 22:08:19
1) What's the word with most suffixes (or perhaps pre- and suffixes) you have seen?There's not really a theoretical upper-limit on the number of affixes you can tack on. How about the word with the most affixes that you might conceivably see someone use?
mal-unu-iĝ-int-ec-o: "disunity"
trojo (Montri la profilon) 2008-julio-24 22:30:25
Vir-o - ManThe suffix -eg doesn't always mean "big", though it's hard to think of anything else that would make sense of these words except to interpret it as "big" here (as with, for example, domego). So I would probably interpret virego as giant, and both viregino and virinego as female giants (i.e. a female big-man and a big female-man, respectively).
Vir-eg-o - A big man
Vir-eg-in-o - A big woman
Vir-o - Man
Vir-in-o - Woman
Vir-in-eg-o - A very feminine woman (well guess not, - but it's a try).
As you can see by the differing interpretations offered, this use of -eg is somewhat ambiguous. That's why we have such words as tre and granda.
