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viewing special characters in hotmail

by Zumanto, December 14, 2006

Messages: 6

Language: English

Zumanto (User's profile) December 14, 2006, 11:32:10 AM

Hi folks,

I use Ek! to type characters like ĉ, ŭ and so on. The problem is that when I get a hotmail back, it can't recognize the special characters. Does anyone know a way to fix this problem? Again, it's fine on websites, it's only in e-mails that it's a problem.


nw2394 (User's profile) December 14, 2006, 1:25:05 PM

Zumanto:Again, it's fine on websites, it's only in e-mails that it's a problem.
I think it is better to use cx for ĉ in emails. Some email client programs cannot display the supersigned characters. So even if your email program can display them, there is no guarantee that the person you are writing to can see them.

For example, I use Pegasus Mail. I switched to that a few years back because Microsoft's pathetic attempt at providing an email program was littered with security problems. But I can't see ĉ, ŝ etc in there even if you send me a email and you can see them. Microsoft seem to have plugged the gaps with respect to their security problems lately. But, frankly, I am happy with my email program and don't want to go to the trouble of switching.


Zumanto (User's profile) December 15, 2006, 5:47:24 AM

That's a shame. I had figured that there must be a way because these symbols are used (aren't they?) in other languages and I thought they'd have support of some kind. Oh well.

Thanks though.

T0dd (User's profile) December 15, 2006, 1:21:49 PM

It is surprising, however, that Hotmail isn't using Unicode... Maybe it is, but the person receiving your message is using a mail app that doesn't.
Yes, you can't assume that email clients will display the characters, so it's best to use either the X or H system. I'm on a couple of Esperanto mailing lists, and everyone uses one of these systems, or the c', s', g' etc. system. I often read and respond to these mails on my smartphone, which also (unfortunately) doesn't have full Unicode support. It has enough to allow me to type in French or Spanish, but not Esperanto. And unfortunately the lernu! web site doesn't work well in its browser.

el_edu (User's profile) December 17, 2006, 11:10:09 PM

Yes, unfortunately, Hotmail still doesn't use Unicode, but ISO-8859-1 (at least for me), so it will not recognize Unicode Esperanto superscripted letters. I use Gmail, so it's not a problem for me: Gmail uses Unicode okulumo.gif

Also, Mozilla Thunderbird recognizes Unicode, and it runs on Windows and Linux.

By the way, if you use Mozilla Firefox, you can install Ĉapelisto for read web pages written using X system. It automagically converts all cx, sx, etc. into ĉ, ŝ... I programmed it recently for my own use and it is now available for download. I hope you find it useful. I do. rido.gif

Zumanto (User's profile) December 21, 2006, 4:24:08 AM

Thanks very much for that program. I've installed it and it even works for hotmail, so that's fantastic.

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