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Memory course

de Cheeky, 2007-junio-12

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Cheeky (Montri la profilon) 2007-junio-12 03:10:47

I came across a link on this site that looks quite good and could be useful with learning Esperanto,it's www.pmemory.com.
Has anyone tried it and if so is it a scam or not?.

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Gatton (Montri la profilon) 2008-marto-23 20:33:08

Cheeky:I came across a link on this site that looks quite good and could be useful with learning Esperanto,it's www.pmemory.com.
Has anyone tried it and if so is it a scam or not?.

Kevin
I am not familiar with this course but most of the memory courses you see advertised are using very old techniques. The techniques work just fine but they can be found for nothing elsewhere. Some of them were used by the ancient Romans.

A good place to start is Mind Tools . That site is also selling stuff but there's quite a bit of free information.

I've had good luck with one of Harry Lorayne's books but again the information is available for free online. You might try doing searches for terms like mnemonics, memory peg system, life hacks and mind hacks.

I wonder what other memory techniques lernu students use to help them remember vocabulary?

Miland (Montri la profilon) 2008-marto-23 21:43:22

In my view there's only one memory technique: hard work, and more hard work! We can't get something for nothing.

Consider the effort in learning a poem like La Espero: we learn individual lines, then whole verses, then the whole poem. So with vocabulary lists (for example), we can break them down in ways that suit us. But there's no royal road. Better get used to the idea, and not be afraid, but proceed with determination!

toiletdude (Montri la profilon) 2008-marto-23 22:14:03

When I study new words in Esperanto...
I feel it's easier to simply set the flash-card system here so I'm typing the words in Esperanto. Where it gives me say... cat and i type 'kato'. I find this helps me internalize words better.

In my opinion, you have the best resource here. (The flashcard system.)
Maybe find a flashcard application?

Just my 2 cents...

RiotNrrd (Montri la profilon) 2008-marto-23 22:29:47

The best way to learn vocabulary (in fact, the most useful vocabulary): start writing. Keep a blog online (Wordpress hands 'em out for free!), or a paper journal, participate a lot in the Esperanto forums, etc.

When writing about things that you want to write about, you will:

1: Discover which words you are likely to need to know most, since those words are the words you will need to express yourself about things that matter to you, and...
2: Keep what you've learned fresh in your mind, for easy recall, since you are actually using those words every day.

Seriously, don't study individual words. That's just a way to fill your mind up with little disconnected Esperanto fragments, some of which will be useful to you and some that probably won't. Start writing, and the fragments become part of a flow that make them easier to internalize. When you don't know a word, look it up and use it immediately, and you will find that you will learn a very large vocabulary very quickly.

toiletdude (Montri la profilon) 2008-marto-23 22:35:05

Ahhhh! So true!

I occasionally speak with some friends online and that helps too.
I suggest reading it out loud to yourself, though. That helps me sometimes.

Miland (Montri la profilon) 2008-marto-24 12:03:11

Writing is helpful for acquiring an active vocabulary (as RiotNrrd has indicated), as is practising thinking in and speaking in the language, but by the same token, reading can be a help in acquiring a passive vocabulary. It needs to be at the level you feel ready for, so that you become acquainted with only a handful of new words at a time.
My own feeling about learning vocabulary in lists is that it can be a good idea provided some attempt at selection is made. But it requires effort, as does any effective method.

Filu (Montri la profilon) 2008-marto-24 13:27:43

Miland:In my view there's only one memory technique: hard work, and more hard work! We can't get something for nothing.
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I understand that one can't get something for nothing, but I still believe it is possible to organize the way we work so that it becomes more efficient.

Exemple: remembering phone numbers...
• Some may decide that in order to practice their memory, something such as an address book should strictly be avoided: this will require a lot of work and most likely frequent errors and/or lost of information;
• Other might have some sort of an address book, but it is in fact a book in which they also draw while talking on the phone or waiting for the but, write random interesting stuff they come accross and also note various information about people they know (including their phone numbers): it might eventually become tedious to look for a specific information;
• And some might have an organized address book in which any information can be quickly and efficiently found, which doesn't prevent them from trying to practice their memory, but with the assurance they can correct any uncertainty they might feel.

Memory indeed needs to be worked on, but not only through memorizing for hours: finding ways to improve its efficiency is also part of the work, and I believe it is legitimate for one to want to learn about tricks from others.

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