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What would someone have to do to create a virtual state?

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ki4jgt (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 6 Gitugutu 2011 01:37:49

What would someone have to consider to create a virtual (online) state incorperating their own laws, traditions, currency, services, and goods?

eojeff (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 6 Gitugutu 2011 02:25:46

The easiest way would be to start a social networking site and call it "Facebook." lango.gif

Now that I'm done being flippant... a virtual [political] state cannot really exist: it lacks territory, the ability to enforce laws within its territory, etc. There is no way that I can think of in which a virtual nation state can conform to Westphalian definitions of state sovereignty.

razlem (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 6 Gitugutu 2011 02:35:58

The closest you'll get is an MMO (like Second Life).

ki4jgt (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 6 Gitugutu 2011 03:30:34

Well, it wouldn't be completely virtual. The citizens would be pulled together by the Internet though.

pikolas (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 6 Gitugutu 2011 03:38:05

See this: www.nationstates.net

And while you're at it, check out this http://www.nationstates.net/region=esperantujo

RiotNrrd (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 6 Gitugutu 2011 04:41:52

Just two simple steps.

Step One: Create a website proclaiming the foundation of your virtual state. You can get your own domain name if you feel it's really necessary, but in all honesty, anything you can get on the web anywhere will work. Wordpress, for example, is more than sufficient.

Step Two: Earn official recognition of the legitimacy of your state from the United Nations. It's nice to get this on a general vote, of course, but in a practical sense, if you can wrangle official recognition from just a few governing members of the security council, you're probably well on your way.

Do just those two things, and you'll definitely have something to talk about, I guarantee it.

ki4jgt (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 6 Gitugutu 2011 11:46:46

RiotNrrd:Just two simple steps.

Step One: Create a website proclaiming the foundation of your virtual state. You can get your own domain name if you feel it's really necessary, but in all honesty, anything you can get on the web anywhere will work. Wordpress, for example, is more than sufficient.

Step Two: Earn official recognition of the legitimacy of your state from the United Nations. It's nice to get this on a general vote, of course, but in a practical sense, if you can wrangle official recognition from just a few governing members of the security council, you're probably well on your way.

Do just those two things, and you'll definitely have something to talk about, I guarantee it.
LOL. I'm not looking for recognition, as much as a chance to have some fun ridulo.gif I don't like the concept of the http://www.nationstates.net either LOL. It doesn't allow citizens to have a cause for anything. The currency (if they have currency) probably ALL goes through their site. There's no way to exchange currency for real money and there are no dedicated causes for your nation to peruse. The way I'm talking of this setup would mean that banks public services and a legal system would be in place for all users/citizens. They could use the currency in real life (as well as online with the community It's not tied to the computer, the only people who would accept it would be other community members of course.) Basically, the community would vote on where to invest it's resources and it would provide resources to it's people at the same time.

erinja (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 6 Gitugutu 2011 13:30:14

This topic doesn't link at all to Esperanto. Please find a way to relate this topic to Esperanto, or I'm deleting the thread. This forum isn't really the place for things that have nothing to do with Esperanto.

The Esperanto-language forums are the right place to be discussing topics like this one, so you could certainly translate your message into Esperanto and have the discussion there.

ki4jgt (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 6 Gitugutu 2011 17:26:04

Well, my thinking was the idea that during Esperanto's past, it has had a few states of it's own that have claimed it as a language. There are even a couple of places on Second Life dedicated to Esperanto. Esperanto of course being neutral, I would assume that it's culture would be of great interest to this (state). With Esperanto being primarily focused on the web, a virtual currency for it would be great. I know it doesn't attempt to overrun one culture with another, but it already has it's own culture. This was my thinking. We have the language, what would it take to relate the rest of the culture to a virtual country?

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