Hej,

regarding Esperanto performance on YouTube.

For me, being non-religous, its very interesting to hear beginning of Fauré Esperanto Requiem 3-5 (0:35 min continuing). It sounds somewhat similar like an very popular German Christmas song in the beginning. Oh, du Fröhliche.

YT-excample of Oh, du Fröhliche. (I only get in touch with religion at Christmas)

Sorry, maybe some kind of stupid question. But, are there any relationships between Christmas and Requiem (Fauré)?

Hhm, would be interesting, to have some karaoke of that. That would make that chorus songs available to layman singers. Even if I'm not very interested at catholic religion. I solely like that music style very much. (Gospel music, too.)

ĝp,

qwertz:Hej,

regarding Esperanto performance on YouTube.

Sorry, maybe some kind of stupid question. But, are there any relationships between Christmas and Requiem (Fauré)?

Hhm, would be interesting, to have some karaoke of that. That would make that chorus songs available to layman singers.

ĝp,

Hej qwertz, glad you like the performance. Fauré's Requiem is one of the most popular choral works, and is probably only rarely sung in a religious setting - maybe in churches, but only because that's where there's an organ for the accompaniment! These days it costs a lot of money to put on a concert with a live orchestra.
There's no connection with Christmas.
Karaoke? Hmmmm.. a bit difficult to get something to suit all voices. Best thing would be to find a choir that's going to perform it and have a go with them - it's really enjoyable and good for your health!

michaelcngm:
Karaoke? Hmmmm.. a bit difficult to get something to suit all voices.

I don't think so. Should be possible for - let me say - 4 voices. I.e. I could use traditional horizontal karaoke lines. Each voice would get two traditonal horizontal karaoke lines. I.e. something like the German traditonal horizontal karaoke line at this karaoke. (The esperanto liriko runs non-traditional verticaly = Karafun karaoke style). So the voices karaoke line concept could look like this:

(everthing realized the traditonal horizontal karaoke line style)

voice #1; line 1
voice #1; line 2

voice #2; line 1
voice #2; line 2

voice #3; line 1
voice #3; line 2

voice #4; line 1
voice #4; line 2

Four voice karaoke presention using 14 or 16 point font (maybe smaller) should be possible.

Would four voices fit to sing Fauré's Requiem? To set time stamp coloring corectly singer voices should be heard differently. Non-chorus example. Karaoke aims komuna kunkantado at Esperanto events. Maybe that could motivate perfect chorus singing later.

michaelcngm:
Best thing would be to find a choir that's going to perform it and have a go with them - it's really enjoyable and good for your health!

Yes, of course. Probably the best.

qwertz:Would four voices fit to sing Fauré's Requiem? To set time stamp coloring corectly singer voices should be heard differently.

I think you don't realize how choral music works, qwertz.

Karaoke works because people already know the tune they have to sing. You just have to tell them the words.

Choral music has a different tune for each of the parts, and you can't hear these different tunes simply by listening to the recording, because it isn't clear which part is yours (and because with four different groups singing four different tunes, it's very complex and difficult to pick out by ear).

Therefore karaoke would not work. Each person would need to have music in front of them, in order to read their part. And that only works for people who know how to read music.

erinja:

qwertz:Would four voices fit to sing Fauré's Requiem? To set time stamp coloring corectly singer voices should be heard differently.

I think you don't realize how choral music works, qwertz.

Karaoke works because people already know the tune they have to sing. You just have to tell them the words.

Yes, karaoke minimizes multitasking efforts means simplifies not to have remember lyrics and timestamps of syllable coloring. Karaoke also could give some details how to organize breathing for proper singing. So someones still has enough breath available if lyric line finishes or starts. Of course karaoke doesn't replace professional singer training. Karaoke solely could intent some kind of "appetizer" to dive more deeper into musican hobby. So, hopefully Karaoke indirectly could help to enlarge Esperanto musicans community.

erinja:
Choral music has a different tune for each of the parts, and you can't hear these different tunes simply by listening to the recording, because it isn't clear which part is yours (and because with four different groups singing four different tunes, it's very complex and difficult to pick out by ear).

Hhm, yes, you're right. Basicly it would need seperate recording of each voice. So only that would it make possible to i.e. fade-out voice 2, 3 and 4 and make karaoke time stamping colouring of voice 1 only. Same with other voices. I.e. fade-out voice 1, 3 and 4 and make karaoke time stamping colouring of voice 2 only etc. Hhm, would be worth to ask Flo (Vinilkosmo) how he would record chorus voices. He would need to offer four single voice mp3s. But it will even so not be possible to give excact karaoke instructions like music notes are doing. Schade/ What a pity.

It already enormously simplifies if "kun voĉo" song version and "sen voĉo" version were made by same producer like Vinilkosmo does since 2009(?). So I simply make the timestamps using kun voĉo mp3 and later solely exchange regarding mp3 with sen voĉo mp3. That's very usefull.

I don't know recording techniques of chorus voices. Musicans of non-chorus music group sing and play inside seperate recording rooms. After that, single recordings of every musicans will mastered together.

erinja:
Therefore karaoke would not work. Each person would need to have music in front of them, in order to read their part. And that only works for people who know how to read music.

You're right. Even if it would work it would confuse more than it would help. Once a friend invited me to take part at one chorus training session. I was assigned to Bass voice type. Singing together is lot of fun.

I very much like the idea of singers change inside songs. That could motivate some more kunagado/community spirit. I.e. Anna and Tomio of La Perdita Generacio do that singers change quite often. I did some experiments to find out how to put that change action into karaoke instructions to give most possible benefits of Esperanto karaokeo. Currently I use " •1•-first_syllable_coloring/etc" and " •1+2•-" markup to instruct singers change or singing together. In the past I used " |||-1-|||-first_syllable_coloring/etc".

•1•- three persons excample*. |||-1|||- two persons excample*. I never got some feedback which karaokeo singers change markup can be read better during singing. Means, does •1•- or |||-1|||- markup are more helpful karaoke instructions? Maybe someones could comment this?

(*Most current karaoke versions doesn't contain any "hack..ed" words. Most current Karafun 1.20 contains jumping ball which instructs much better singing length of syllables than "hack..ed" words)

I also did assume, that people didn't know that they try to sing song alone, which were created to sing by multiple persons. I have seen several times that people perform that "wrong". So, current karaoke list (pdf) contains number of singers, too.