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pauxleto (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 23 თებერვალი, 2012 12:57:55
Can anyone recommend a good AUDIO ONLY course?
Obviously, I can't (or I shouldn't!) look at text, pictures or videos while driving.
I am thinking of something like Pimsleur, for example. Do they have an Esperanto version?
What else is out there?
My preference is on courses with a communicative approach (as opposed to someone just explaining all grammar rules with examples) but I'll take whatever is available.
Thanks! Dankon! Gracias!
erinja (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 23 თებერვალი, 2012 16:12:11
Of course there is "Mi estas komencanto" at lernu, which is available in downloadable version, but that is surely below the level you're looking for.
At any rate, you're no longer a beginner, so something on the order of Pimsleur would probably be too easy for you, even if it existed in Esperanto (it doesn't).
For someone intermediate level and above, imitation of good speakers is a useful way to learn. Noticing that every good speaker says something in a certain way and you say it differently is a good clue that there may be a problem with something you're saying. Are there cases where you're in doubt as to how to say something? Look it up in PMEG. Many talented Esperanto speakers never had a course above the beginner level. The key is to read a lot of good Esperanto, write a lot of Esperanto, listen to a lot of Esperanto, and speak as much Esperanto as you can - even if it means talking to yourself aloud.
I want to add that particularly with vocabulary (but not so much with grammar), just because someone says something differently from you doesn't mean that they're right and you're wrong. I've heard probably at least three different Esperanto words for "gas station", from reliable and experienced Esperantists. There is some variation and that's ok. But you definitely want to watch how your grammar compares to someone else's, and check a reliable grammar guide if there seems to be a mismatch.
For your car trip, I recommend downloading some episodes of Radio Verda. Exposure to good Esperanto will help train your ear to spot mistakes in your own Esperanto, you'll learn new vocabulary in context, etc. And it will be more fun and interesting than something like an audio course.
Talk to yourself aloud in the car. Discuss, in Esperanto, the things that you see, as if you are describing them to a child in the car, or as if you're showing a foreign tourist around your region. You'll discover some holes in your vocabulary, and that will be a great way to give yourself some things to look up in a dictionary when you reach your destination.
pauxleto (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 24 თებერვალი, 2012 02:23:06
erinja:"Jen nia Mondo" is the most extensive audio course that I know. It's long out of print and not always easy to find, so you probably won't find it before this weekend. It has an accompanying book, I don't know how free-standing it is.Multan Dankon, Erinja!
Of course there is "Mi estas komencanto" at lernu, which is available in downloadable version, but that is surely below the level you're looking for.
At any rate, you're no longer a beginner, so something on the order of Pimsleur would probably be too easy for you, even if it existed in Esperanto (it doesn't).
For someone intermediate level and above, imitation of good speakers is a useful way to learn. Noticing that every good speaker says something in a certain way and you say it differently is a good clue that there may be a problem with something you're saying. Are there cases where you're in doubt as to how to say something? Look it up in PMEG. Many talented Esperanto speakers never had a course above the beginner level. The key is to read a lot of good Esperanto, write a lot of Esperanto, listen to a lot of Esperanto, and speak as much Esperanto as you can - even if it means talking to yourself aloud.
I want to add that particularly with vocabulary (but not so much with grammar), just because someone says something differently from you doesn't mean that they're right and you're wrong. I've heard probably at least three different Esperanto words for "gas station", from reliable and experienced Esperantists. There is some variation and that's ok. But you definitely want to watch how your grammar compares to someone else's, and check a reliable grammar guide if there seems to be a mismatch.
For your car trip, I recommend downloading some episodes of Radio Verda. Exposure to good Esperanto will help train your ear to spot mistakes in your own Esperanto, you'll learn new vocabulary in context, etc. And it will be more fun and interesting than something like an audio course.
Talk to yourself aloud in the car. Discuss, in Esperanto, the things that you see, as if you are describing them to a child in the car, or as if you're showing a foreign tourist around your region. You'll discover some holes in your vocabulary, and that will be a great way to give yourself some things to look up in a dictionary when you reach your destination.
I love all your suggestions. Thanks for taking time to respond.
Pauxleto
pdenisowski (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 24 თებერვალი, 2012 03:16:15
erinja:"Jen nia Mondo" is the most extensive audio course that I know. It's long out of print and not always easy to find, so you probably won't find it before this weekend. It has an accompanying book, I don't know how free-standing it is.I used Jen Nia Mondo as both a learner and as a teacher of Esperanto and think it's the absolute best course out there.
Jen Nia Mondo I and II and their audio materials are available (and in stock at the moment) from the Esperanto USA retbutiko :
http://esperanto-usa.org/retbutiko/index.php?mai...
http://esperanto-usa.org/retbutiko/index.php?mai...
I also second erinja's comment about Radio Verda : it's a great source of listening material. Some of the other Esperanto podcasts (like Ondo de Esperanto, Pola Retradio, and Radio Vatikana) are sometimes a little dry or too advanced for beginners.
Good luck!
Paul