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World News in Esperanto

ya komenstanto, 2 Machi 2012

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komenstanto (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 5 Machi 2012 7:35:45 alasiri

I have never seen "Le Monde diplomatique" or "eventeo". Both are quite good. I have added the RSS feed of them to my reader (newsbeuter). I find I can read most of the articles with near 100% fluency. I was reading something in Le Monde diplomatique about the oppression of Iran versus the sort of blind eye the west turns to the Saudis, when both are guilty of the same human rights crimes, and perhaps the oil friendliness of the Saudis gives them immunity from the prosecution we want to visit to Iran. Good stuff! rideto.gif

Evildela (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 5 Machi 2012 10:01:34 alasiri

erinja:People are willing to pay for something if they can't find a better version for free.

People can find, in their native languages, better quality news than they could pay for in Esperanto. So why pay? I wouldn't.
Than logically, we can't expect many good Esperanto news websites.

erinja (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 5 Machi 2012 10:27:40 alasiri

No, we can't expect many good Esperanto news websites.

We don't have many good ones. And the only ones that have any kind of quality are pretty limited in content. It takes time and money to produce quality, and there isn't really a lot of money in Esperanto.

komenstanto (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 5 Machi 2012 11:19:01 alasiri

With the one's they have now, I say keep up the good work. Looks like fairly good reporting or translating. I tried translating some long articles a while back. I am sure I did a poor job. When I get better at Esperanto, I will volunteer to translate articles if they present news like the other one I read, in other words objectively. I believe in volunteering. I teach English once a week for two hour sessions and dont get paid a dime.

sudanglo (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 6 Machi 2012 12:07:08 alasiri

there isn't really a lot of money in Esperanto.
Absolutely. I've never seen Esperantists' Rolls-Royces parked outside the kongresejo. Why not?

There's a lot of money around though in the world at large. I keep reading about how a tiny fraction of the American population have a vastly disproportionate share of the wealth. A couple of these billionaires could easily finance a whole range of projects.

The trouble is that Esperanto has always seemed to attract a particular sort of person - eccentric lefties, and other assorted bleeding hearts, all with a poor fashion sense.

Esperanto should be for everybody - including the super-rich, the dictators of tin-pot countries, hedge-fund managers, minor aristocracy, fashion models, and even right-wing nationalists. But these groups are very poorly represented at the moment.

komenstanto (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 6 Machi 2012 6:06:19 alasiri

That may end soon. Even I who never thought terrorism could have any effect occasionally think of going into a Deutsche Bank and planting bombs in all the restrooms to literally blow the scheisse out of them. Though of course I realize that would not have any great effect, and literally you can see that Deutsche Bank is not just a local German institution that you can "blow up". Its employees are all over the world, and many are Americans!

Here is a list of rich and "smart" Deutsche Bank employees. Maybe they will give us some money if we "hit" them up:

http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com/neighbors.php...

Note that names like Bausano are actually American citizens. Keep hitting next at the bottom and the list of potential donors goes on...Deutsche Bank likes Romney for President eh, as if he wasnt already superrich! That site is fun. Just put in a new bank for workplace and see all the donations. The only thing I have donated to is "Close the School of Americas" campaign.

Do you think it is possible to write letters asking these people for money, since it gives their addresses?

Wilhelm (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 6 Machi 2012 8:04:26 alasiri

erinja:People are willing to pay for something if they can't find a better version for free.

People can find, in their native languages, better quality news than they could pay for in Esperanto. So why pay? I wouldn't.
In my opinion, international news, in English, though massive, is of relatively poor quality and usually gives voice to the opinions of the small elite who happen to speak English.

I would like to read articles from local presses around the world, concerning both local and international news.

Or something like a wiki where people can translate articles from their local presses would be great.

Sincerely,

William.

Wilhelm (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 6 Machi 2012 8:09:41 alasiri

komenstanto:
Here is a list of rich and "smart" Deutsche Bank employees. Maybe they will give us some money if we "hit" them up:
What you need to find is some old rich guy who really hates his family and wants to screw them over in his will by giving his fortune away to some crazy cause.
That "crazy cause" could be Esperanto.

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komenstanto (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 6 Machi 2012 11:09:01 alasiri

Wilhelm:
komenstanto:
Here is a list of rich and "smart" Deutsche Bank employees. Maybe they will give us some money if we "hit" them up:
What you need to find is some old rich guy who really hates his family and wants to screw them over in his will by giving his fortune away to some crazy cause.
That "crazy cause" could be Esperanto.

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I am surprised there are not more rich people supporting Esperanto! It's news to me. I assumed there was to some extent. I actually knew an old rich guy from British Colombia, but he was a Scottish-loving bugger and only cared for proper British English, though originally not even a Canadian but from Los Angeles. I am suspicious of Americans who move to Canada sometimes. They become royalists. He thought space aliens were talking to him. rideto.gif

Americans who live in other lands sometimes send money to Mitt Romney as well.

sudanglo (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 7 Machi 2012 10:07:07 asubuhi

If every Esperantist, and those who have at some time studied Esperanto a bit, could be persuaded to part with just one Euro (or equivalent), then, if these funds could be collected efficiently and then pooled, we would have a respectable fighting fund.

Political parties collect such funds to promote their causes. The Esperanto movement is essentially a single-issue political party.

But I don't think that in its history the Esperanto movement has ever implemented such a levy on its adherents.

Fund raising, I think, has never been globally centralised and tends to be hypothecated, ie. for a specific project, or it is regional, like donations/subscriptions to the national association or local club.

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