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จาก acdibble, 13 เมษายน 2012

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acdibble (แสดงโปรไฟล์) 13 เมษายน 2012, 15:45:28

Is |ant| considered to be a real suffix? And for that matter, what about |ont| and |int|? Or are the participles their own closed system?

LoadaLudo (แสดงโปรไฟล์) 13 เมษายน 2012, 16:33:38

I wouldn't consider them (int, ant, ont) as suffixes. In my German-Eo dictionary they are constituted as a closed system, just one of the few grammatical rules.

sudanglo (แสดงโปรไฟล์) 14 เมษายน 2012, 09:40:10

Int has a life outside the formation of participles. For example in Mi povintus, eterna komencanto, en la pasinteco. I have also seen inte on its own as an adverb, though I can't remember the exact phrase now.

tommjames (แสดงโปรไฟล์) 14 เมษายน 2012, 10:14:53

Int, ant and ont are slightly disjointed from the rest of the suffixes in that they cover a unique grammatical category. But they are still suffixes for all intents and purposes.

PMEG refers to them as "participaj sufiksoj".

opalo (แสดงโปรไฟล์) 14 เมษายน 2012, 10:31:50

The most obvious example is "past, present, future" (estinteco, estanteco, estonteco).

darkweasel (แสดงโปรไฟล์) 14 เมษายน 2012, 14:56:09

sudanglo:I have also seen inte on its own as an adverb, though I can't remember the exact phrase now.
lernu! uses onta on its own, here: Pri la Fundamento

En la ontaj paĝoj vi lernos pri ĉiuj kvar partoj en facila maniero.

acdibble (แสดงโปรไฟล์) 16 เมษายน 2012, 03:14:12

It seems like some of them could be useful on their own. "anteco" seems like it would be a sufficient term for "present". To me, it seems like it would mean "something that has the quality of currently happening".

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