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Lecture Series on Universal Languages

de rickbhill, 26 de abril de 2012

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Idioma: English

erinja (Mostrar o perfil) 27 de abril de 2012 11:54:16

sudanglo:It might be a good idea to write to him, congratulating him on the first two lectures, and politely suggesting that when he gets to covering Esperanto, he might like to run his comments on the language past the Esperantists first, as there are many misconceptions about Esperanto out there in the big bad wide word.
I'm sure he knows this, as an Esperantist himself. It might even come off as insulting to suggest that an Esperantist should consult other Esperantists before talking about Esperanto.

sudanglo (Mostrar o perfil) 27 de abril de 2012 12:39:55

Oh! I fell into a trap there. I just assumed he wouldn't be an Esperantist. Thanks for the heads-up. Ooh, look, I can speak American sometimes.

erinja (Mostrar o perfil) 27 de abril de 2012 12:43:40

erinja:He is clearly a supporter of Esperanto and doesn't need any encouragement in that regard. I didn't watch his videos but I've heard his name before in Esperantujo. He's an Esperanto speaker, he's been doing Esperanto stuff at least since 2009.
Perhaps you missed my previous message, sudanglo.

Fenris_kcf (Mostrar o perfil) 21 de setembro de 2012 22:52:47

Part 3 is now available

Leke (Mostrar o perfil) 22 de setembro de 2012 15:19:15

Fenris_kcf:Part 3 is now available
Great! Thanks for the update.

Vestitor (Mostrar o perfil) 23 de setembro de 2012 02:59:49

An important (and realistic) point to take from this is the discussion of the ingredients that actually combine to create a lingua franca, or at least any bridging language: numbers, military power and political power. The spread through culture comes afterwards.

Esperantists under the misapprehension that writing books, making films and making some desirable 'cultural artefacts' in Esperanto is likely to encourage people to take up Esperanto ought to see this as a rude awakening.

The protected minority languages of the European Union would be gone without the decision to enact legislation for their protection. The forcible domination of French in France has killed off many regional languages and dialects. Likewise the status of German in Belgium is one enacted by government decree in the name of representation, otherwise German in Belgium would probably die out eventually. It's another example of power setting the initial foundation.

Convincing the EU to properly recognise Esperanto - and thus to ensure promotion - would be a more realistic prospect, though according to their terms it's not part of their agenda of only protecting and promoting languages linked to specific geographical regions, cultures and traditions within Europe.

sudanglo (Mostrar o perfil) 23 de setembro de 2012 09:54:19

I agree Vestitor, and since we don't have military power and are unlikely to get political acceptance until the numbers are well up, it really all boils down to getting the numbers up.

The only way to get this quickly is to get Esperanto into the schools by arguing not for its worth as a lingua franca, but for its educational value - and not just on propaedeutic grounds.

In the meantime if every Esperantist undertook to persuade one other person to learn Esperanto and that person in turn accepted the same commitment, and so on, then the numbers would grow very rapidly.

I simply cannot understand the attitude of some who prefer to keep it quiet that they are an Esperanto-speaker. If you want to change attitudes you have to tell as many people as possible that you speak Esperanto, so that the public at least has heard of Esperanto, so that they can say 'Oh Esperanto, I have an uncle/ grandson/ neighbour etc who speaks that'.

eitanulo (Mostrar o perfil) 23 de setembro de 2012 10:11:40

Esperanto CAN-not and WILL-not, be an international language, simply because the vast majority of the population won't stand for it, as with most other IAL's.. However, if the Europian Union would recognize it as an important part of their heritage, due to the aspiring story behind it.. It could gain some status!

derverwandte (Mostrar o perfil) 23 de setembro de 2012 12:26:27

Fenris_kcf:Oh, you've also found these okulumo.gif
Watched 1&2 yesterday. Can't wait to see 3&4.
cannot open the link leh!!

Fenris_kcf (Mostrar o perfil) 23 de setembro de 2012 12:52:47

I didn't place a link in that post. Here are the links for the yet uploaded parts:

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

If you still encounter problems watching the videos, tell me and I'll see what I can do.

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