eitanulo:my full intend was't to stop there- but rather to drive the language out of it's overly gramatical state

But you wouldn't be driving anything out of anything. As erinja said, all you're doing is creating a new Esperanto-based language. Esperanto isn't open to any kind of reform*, much less reforms that violate the Fundamento and don't offer any ostensible benefit whatsoever. Surely you must already be aware of this?

Please do the readership a favour and take it to the appropriate forum, which is About other languages.

* At least no more so than any other living language, like English for example.

tommjames:

eitanulo:my full intend was't to stop there- but rather to drive the language out of it's overly gramatical state

But you wouldn't be driving anything out of anything. As erinja said, all you're doing is creating a new Esperanto-based language. Esperanto isn't open to any kind of reform*, much less reforms that violate the Fundamento and don't offer any ostensible benefit whatsoever. Surely you must already be aware of this?

Please do the readership a favour and take it to the appropriate forum, which is About other languages.

* At least no more so than any other living language, like English for example.

AS I EXPLAINED EARLIER, THIS IS NO REFORM but a mere proposal to advance the language in the world.

eitanulo:AS I EXPLAINED EARLIER, THIS IS NO REFORM but a mere proposal to advance the language in the world.

But you are still in the wrong forum.

johmue:

eitanulo:AS I EXPLAINED EARLIER, THIS IS NO REFORM but a mere proposal to advance the language in the world.

But you are still in the wrong forum.

And you, my dear friend are in the wrong THREAD!!

OMG no...it isn't "cooler"...GAD! It's horrible!

eitanulo:
No, you didn't get it.. As I described earlier:

1) Remove all '-a' and '-o's endings from nouns and adjectives, as long as they're in their original default format as defined by the Fundamento. (That would mean, an adjective that originaly was a verb in it's original form wold be left untouched, for ex.)

It's really simple: If the word is a noun by default, and appears as an adjective- leave it for clarity and vice versa.

No, it is you who didn't get it. Esperanto is supposed to be simple and you "simplify" it by making it even more weird than it is now (if it is weird at all). You introduce new rules instead of getting rid of them. How can it be simpler if I must remember to say such and such in one case and such and such in other. No, I am against it. Esperanto is good as it is, no such reform needed. Please, create new language if you feel you must, but leave Esperanto alone.

hebda999:

eitanulo:
No, you didn't get it.. As I described earlier:

1) Remove all '-a' and '-o's endings from nouns and adjectives, as long as they're in their original default format as defined by the Fundamento. (That would mean, an adjective that originaly was a verb in it's original form wold be left untouched, for ex.)

It's really simple: If the word is a noun by default, and appears as an adjective- leave it for clarity and vice versa.

No, it is you who didn't get it. Esperanto is supposed to be simple and you "simplify" it by making it even more weird than it is now (if it is weird at all). You introduce new rules instead of getting rid of them. How can it be simpler if I must remember to say such and such in one case and such and such in other. No, I am against it. Esperanto is good as it is, no such reform needed. Please, create new language if you feel you must, but leave Esperanto alone.

Didn't add any new rules, just improved some N' You don't have to memorise it, that's just the whole point here. Ek Glata Esperanto!!! ;D

P.S The new format is still compatible with the old one.. Since this is just a new fashion of speaking esperanto, you could understand eachother..

eitanulo:Didn't add any new rules, just improved some N' You don't have to memorise it, that's just the whole point here.

You did add a new rule, because you want people to speak other way than normal, and that is a new rule which makes the language more difficult to use.

And you're right, I would not memorize it - frankly I have already forgotten it. Let the beginners learn good Esperanto. Afterwards they can decide what is difficult and unnecessary and what is not. I think that's final.

hebda999:

eitanulo:Didn't add any new rules, just improved some N' You don't have to memorise it, that's just the whole point here.

You did add a new rule, because you want people to speak other way than normal, and that is a new rule which makes the language more difficult to use.

And you're right, I would not memorize it - frankly I have already forgotten it. Let the beginners learn good Esperanto. Afterwards they can decide what is difficult and unnecessary and what is not. I think that's final.

..ok

hebda999:

eitanulo:Didn't add any new rules, just improved some N' You don't have to memorise it, that's just the whole point here.

You did add a new rule, because you want people to speak other way than normal, and that is a new rule which makes the language more difficult to use.

And you're right, I would not memorize it - frankly I have already forgotten it. Let the beginners learn good Esperanto. Afterwards they can decide what is difficult and unnecessary and what is not. I think that's final.

Just started studying Esperanto four months ago, using the book by George Hess, a book written before the Second World War and with which have learned several generations of people in times that there were no facilities that now have Internet. I'm learning rules, grammar, want to learn the language correctly and respecting their style and ways, so I do not agree with changes that all they can do is confuse beginners.