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Ways to say Hello

de Moosader, 2012-septembro-04

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Moosader (Montri la profilon) 2012-septembro-04 02:59:45

Hey there guys--

I just had a quick question about talking in Esperanto -- namely, different ways to say "Hello" besides just "Saluton".

In ##esperanto on Freenode, I see some people use "Ahoj hoj", and I suppose there's the variations of "good morning/afternoon/evening", but what else is common?

Thanks

Riano (Montri la profilon) 2012-septembro-04 03:29:21

Moosader:Hey there guys--

I just had a quick question about talking in Esperanto -- namely, different ways to say "Hello" besides just "Saluton".

In ##esperanto on Freenode, I see some people use "Ahoj hoj", and I suppose there's the variations of "good morning/afternoon/evening", but what else is common?

Thanks
I've seen "hej," "sal'," and "bonan" (I assume short for "bonan matenon/tagon/vesperon"). But mostly people say "Saluton."

creedelambard (Montri la profilon) 2012-septembro-04 04:46:40

I think one of the dictionaries I have in storage somewhere (possibly the Teach Yourself Esperanto Dictionary) includes "ha lo" as a telephone greeting. I have no idea whether anyone actually uses it, though.

Past that I've never spoken with anyone enough to do greetings beyond "Saluton," which always works.

Evildela (Montri la profilon) 2012-septembro-04 04:52:47

creedelambard:I think one of the dictionaries I have in storage somewhere (possibly the Teach Yourself Esperanto Dictionary) includes "ha lo" as a telephone greeting. I have no idea whether anyone actually uses it, though.

Past that I've never spoken with anyone enough to do greetings beyond "Saluton," which always works.
Saluton I usually use with most of the elder Esperantists where I live, but I use Sal' with a couple of my younger Esperanto friends. I interesting just read an article where 'salaton' is used by vegiterians (guess thats more of an in joke though)

http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperantaj_idiotismoj

sudanglo (Montri la profilon) 2012-septembro-04 09:16:09

The Wikipaedia article on Esperanto idioms contains more than a few expressions which are just normal Esperanto rather than strictly deserving of the label idiotismoj. How is Kompreneble an idiom, or the contraction of Kioma estas la horo to Kiomas an idiom.

However on the topic of greetings Salaton is certainly not limited to use among vegetarians. It's just a jokey variant of Saluton - more of an adolescent thing.

Bonan instead of the full Bonan matenon, Bonan tagon etc, I would certainly say has some currency. It has a slightly different function to Saluton, being more just a polite acknowledgement of someone's presence (who you have already met and are greeting again, say at breakfast).

Sal' is an obvious contraction.

Ha lo is listed as a telephone greeting - it gets round the problem of problem of an unusual position for the accented syllable that would arise if the greeting were a single word. But how many people use it I am unsure. It could be contracted to Lo!.

There are a mass of other theoretical possibilities for that situtation - Parolas (name), Mi aŭskultas, Jes, Jen (name). I come from a pre-mobile generation so in the time that I used to go to congresses, I didn't overhear people answering the phone. And in any case the call would more likely not come from another Esperantist, or this would only be evident later after the call had been already answered. I have seen Ha Lo in the literature however.

Hoj I associate with marine usage.

In any case, there are not that many variants on Hello in English, and this seems to be being replaced in informal situations by Hi.

In the case of formal introductions, more elaborate or flowery language can be used - Kiel vi fartas, Estas plezuro vin renkonti, Ravite etc.

Roberto12 (Montri la profilon) 2012-septembro-04 20:29:32

I've advocated spelling "sal" without the apostrophe, because with it, it looks like the official contraction of salo, whereas without it, it's more like a new root.

There's also "slu".

darkweasel (Montri la profilon) 2012-septembro-04 20:50:22

Roberto12:
There's also "slu".
...which seems to be used by exactly one lernu! user who really cannot be described as a very experienced speaker...

Or am I completely wrong?

RiotNrrd (Montri la profilon) 2012-septembro-04 22:01:40

Roberto12:There's also "slu".
Actually, there really isn't.

Vespero_ (Montri la profilon) 2012-septembro-04 22:04:50

I've seen Hola and I think I've seen "Jo," but I can't speak to the prevalence of these.

Moosader (Montri la profilon) 2012-septembro-04 22:58:16

Alright, dankon guys.

I guess online I tend to say "Heyo" in English even though it's not a word (sort of like "Hey" and "Hello") . I'm sure I'd only confuse if I used bastardizations of Esperanto words for greetings, though. ridulo.gif

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