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Esperanto soft power?

patrik, 2012 m. rugsėjis 10 d.

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Bruso (Rodyti profilį) 2012 m. rugsėjis 12 d. 13:26:24

Chainy:
You highlight the fact that there are about 40,000 more posts in Esperanto than in English. That's what it says.
Kaj kelkaj "anglalingvaj" mesaĵoj estas en ambaŭ lingvoj.

And some "English" messages are in both languages.

marcuscf (Rodyti profilį) 2012 m. rugsėjis 12 d. 14:27:14

domestro:
Borgo:I think that a series of good, well written, easy to read, original, science fiction or fantasy books in Esperanto certainly wouldn't hurt.
There is Gerda malaperis already. But it is not very known yet.
But in my opinion is enough, if a character from popular series (e.g. How I met your mother) spoke a little Esperanto in some situations (as Klingon in Star Trek or Chinese in Jackie Chan films).
Esperanto has made several appearances in movies, books, and music. Maybe they are still too few and too far apart?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto_in_popular_...

EoMy (Rodyti profilį) 2012 m. rugsėjis 12 d. 14:27:44

I am not a fluent esperanto speaker. But I used this piece of information when I talk to the people or give a talk to a group of people, it is effective because most parents love their kids.

creedelambard (Rodyti profilį) 2012 m. rugsėjis 12 d. 18:08:19

I posted this a while back in the Harry Harrison memorial thread, but it bears repeating here: Esperanto-USA (ELNA at the time) got more requests for information from mentions placed in the back pages of his Stainless Steel Rat novels (where Esperanto made occasional appearances) than from any other source. Maybe all other sources.

I don't know how many requests that was, but it probably says something about the way to present Esperanto as a dezirindaĵo.

patrik (Rodyti profilį) 2012 m. rugsėjis 14 d. 03:20:25

But then, what kind of image should we project to the rest of the world? We should not aim to be a threatening minority who spout anti-imperialistic gobbledegooky propaganda. I think we should throw away that dualistic worldview, and realize that it's NOT all "us against them"; that we are NOT fighters aiming to end the dominance of English or whatever else; that we should NOT cling to that venomous ideology of ressentiment typical of codesito and hebda999, who are essentially telling the world that Esperanto is the "Final Solution" to the "English Problem". Soft power is about the ability to attract people, of establishing friendly ties, and bitter ressentiment won't help us to reach those goals. All those excess baggage should remain as relics of the past.

Also, what kind of policy should we practice in regards to the issues of the modern world? Should we maintain the neutrality policy (TEJO already threw it away, but is it advisable)? Should we act like humanitarian aid organizations? Should we take a stance regarding immigration, Islamophobia, and other socio-political issues?

Hundies19 (Rodyti profilį) 2012 m. rugsėjis 14 d. 04:33:17

"Should we take a stance regarding immigration, Islamophobia, and other socio-political issues?"

Socio political issues seem a bit too complex for the Esperanto movement in my opinion, we should stick to linguistics, communication and to whatever culture is created or connected to Esperanto. Immigration is different in each situation. We don't know weather Esperanto would be useful as a means of better communication within a nation state that is linguistically divided for example. It's certainly a possibility.

What is called Islamophobia is often not an irrational fear nor even a fear when applied to many people who would be labeled "islamophobic", when it is actual I'm not sure what Esperanto could do to avail those people in particular. Maybe the best thing to do is demand equal treatment before the law in either case? That and a firm stance for basic liberties and tolerance?

Borgo (Rodyti profilį) 2012 m. rugsėjis 14 d. 05:05:44

domestro:
Borgo:I think that a series of good, well written, easy to read, original, science fiction or fantasy books in Esperanto certainly wouldn't hurt.
There is Gerda malaperis already. But it is not very known yet.
But in my opinion is enough, if a character from popular series (e.g. How I met your mother) spoke a little Esperanto in some situations (as Klingon in Star Trek or Chinese in Jackie Chan films).
Sure, Gerda malaperis is easy to read but the story is not that interesting. Put less emphasis on "easy to read" and more emphasis on "good". Think about your favorite series of books and compare that to what's available in Esperanto.

Borgo (Rodyti profilį) 2012 m. rugsėjis 14 d. 05:14:53

Hundies19:Socio political issues seem a bit too complex for the Esperanto movement in my opinion, we should stick to linguistics, communication and to whatever culture is created or connected to Esperanto.
There has been a number of studies showing that lerning Esperanto first eases learning another national language later. I think this idea should be heavily promoted and La Interna Ideo shouldn't even be mentioned (as it seems to cause people to roll their eyes).

Evildela (Rodyti profilį) 2012 m. rugsėjis 14 d. 05:23:29

Esperanto has beautifully written, highly in depth reading material, the problem is... non-Esperantist will never know about it, and even experienced Esprantists will have a hardtime finding it.

darkweasel (Rodyti profilį) 2012 m. rugsėjis 14 d. 09:34:17

patrik, do you know point 1 of the Deklaracio pri la Esenco de la Esperantismo?

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