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Slovio will help esperanto

viết bởi EoMy, Ngày 05 tháng 10 năm 2012

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EoMy (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 06:06:34 Ngày 05 tháng 10 năm 2012

I did not know anyone has posted and discussed about this short film. But it is very divided opinons in the facebook.

For the Slavic language I totally have no idea but saw a thread some time back for promoting of learning this language.

erinja (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 10:40:58 Ngày 05 tháng 10 năm 2012

If you were to dig up the old thread and read it, I think you would find that Slovio doesn't have a lot of substance to it.

The idea intrigued me, some time back. I had a marginal interest in learning and I thought maybe it would be worth learning if it really works. So I went looking for information about it online, to find true personal accounts of people who actually used it in Slavic-speaking countries and were understood. I did not find any, other than the promotional materials on the Slovio website. I doubt the authenticity of that promotional material, since I couldn't find any independent reports on other websites or forums on Slovio.

If I recall correctly, the one report I found was a person who tried Slovio and wasn't understood. I think the person said that he thinks if the listener had tried harder, he would have been understood. But the person heard a lot of strange words and sort of shut down, and the reaction was "no, I can't understand that", rather than making an effort to try to understand. The writer felt that it would have helped if he had been able to tell the listener something like, "Listen, I'm going to use some words that might be familiar but not exactly your language; bear with me and listen carefully, because you will understand most of it if you try".

Teapot (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 16:55:26 Ngày 05 tháng 10 năm 2012

Slovio appears to be dead.

However, there is a related project with a similar stated goal. They have implemented three languages: Neoslavonic, Slovianski and Slovianto (with the latter being the most interesting to me). So you aren't mislead by other websites, I recommend reading the disclaimer because, it seems, the creator of Slovio is acting vengefully.

I'd like some confirmation from Slavic-speaking people that they can understand one or more of these languages to a significant degree.

robinast (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 17:29:04 Ngày 05 tháng 10 năm 2012

I speak only Russian and know a few words in Ukrainian. Nevertheless, Slovio and Neoslavonic were pretty easy to understand for me. Also Slovianski and Slovianto were understandable - though maybe a bit less. I even would say that for me, all the four were easier to understand than Esperanto was initially. ridulo.gif Nevertheless, I did read only the short and simple text samples, so no serious conclusions can be made.

Teapot (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 04:16:48 Ngày 07 tháng 10 năm 2012

Thanks for your input robinast. It makes sense that you would understand Slovio given your knowledge of Russian and Esperanto. According to the Interslavic project, 90% of the roots were taken from Russian and the grammar is based on Esperanto.

Unfortunately, I don't expect to be able to make any serious conclusions on the subject. Still, I'll work with what I have - a sketchy conclusion and curiosity! okulumo.gif

erinja (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 12:11:11 Ngày 07 tháng 10 năm 2012

I think it's easier to understand writing, too.

If I receive an e-mail in Portuguese, I can usually understand the gist of it because of having studied related languages. If someone were to speak to me in Portuguese, I'd have no clue.

robinast (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 12:33:57 Ngày 07 tháng 10 năm 2012

erinja:I think it's easier to understand writing, too.
Yes, sure. While reading, you have time to think over and look back if necessary. But if you heard and not understand, so it remains..

Hundies19 (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 14:00:10 Ngày 07 tháng 10 năm 2012

I don't think that Slovio has been learned by very many people, not enough to have been tested really. I spend a few day memorizing it's basic vocabualary, because I like slavic words, they usually sound cool ridego.gif. Anyway I find myself recognizing words in Russian pop music fairly often. Though I think that because of the Structure of Slovio, it works the other way around better.

hebda999 (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 05:27:21 Ngày 10 tháng 10 năm 2012

Frankly, if I didn't know Russian, I would understand as much as 40..60% of Slovio. See for yourself:

Slovio: "Sxto es Slovio? Slovio es novju mezxunarodju jazika ktor razumijut cxtirsto milion ludis na celoju zemla."
Polish: "Co to jest Slovio? Slovio jest nowym, międzynarodowym językiem, który rozumie czterysta milionów ludzi na całej ziemi."
English: "What is Slovio? Slovio is the new international language that is understood by four hundred million people around the world."

With Russian I understand it all. But they don't teach Russian in schools any more these days.

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