BenjamenoPoeto:

erinja:Remember that these exams are also used to give people tutoring rights

hm, is this true? tutoring for what, where?

For the courses "Ana Pana", "Ana renkontas" and "Kio okazas", see Language tutors.

(For some reason it seems that even tutors who have marked themselves as inactive, such as myself, show up on that list. )

Inactive tutors show up on that list. But they do not show up to students who are taking the course, selecting a tutor to send a lesson to.

The Esperanto world often has a situation where someone has more enthusiasm than talent; lernu's tutors have to pass a C-level exam to get tutoring rights. It isn't a perfect system but it does screen out people who are enthusiastic, but lack enough knowledge to effectively correct someone else's lessons.

erinja:Inactive tutors show up on that list. But they do not show up to students who are taking the course, selecting a tutor to send a lesson to.

Ok, I understand. Perhaps in the new lernu! they could at least be marked as inactive so that people don't send them private messages asking language questions?

English is also my native language and French is my second I like to consider my self semi-fluent in French and I'm still learning French, esperanto, Spanish and Signlanguage and at times English. No matter how fluent you get you can still get more fluent. reply to Benjamenopoeto

sudanglo:

45/50, sukcesis unuaprove!

Seems encouragingly high. But a certain proportion of those passes would I suppose be old-timers who took the exam out of curiosity to see what Lernu was up to.

I think you misunderstood what BenjamenoPoeto said - I understood it as "My score was 45 points out of 50, so I passed the exam on my first try!", not "45 out of 50 people (ie 90%) pass the exam on their first try".

I certainly did take it that way Tat. I suppose that underlines the importance in Esperanto of putting in a subject in the sentence, or of being more explicit.

What are the stats for success rates at the various levels, I wonder.

i2Bwitchy:I've been on the site for about a week now trying to learn Esperanto - just wondering how long it has taken everyone else on here to become semi-fluent? Or at the very least, able to read, understand, and write paragraphs and full, complete sentences?

Also, any tips or advice on the quickest method for learning that worked for you?

It will take longer than you thought it would. When the reality of learning this language comes up against your prior expectations, you may feel a bit frustrated or let down. Hearing people say that Tolstoy figured it out in an afternoon won't help. There's not much to say other than 'Hang in there!'

To read should take you the shortest amount of time, though it might feel like you are swimming through mud while clutching your dictionary for quite a while. Try the Krestomatio for that at gutenberg.org, it's more or less tailor made for the task of understanding steadily longer and longer sentences. To make it more fun, re-write some of the sentences using rude nouns. Writing on your own is nice because you can go at your own pace and be self-motivated, and Esperanto's similarity to English makes it seem easy. Of course it is much better if you've got someone to check it, otherwise you might write the same mistake fifteen times and not realise. Speaking fluently might take you a while. Expect to muddle through for months, years, and hang in there. Try to notice all your tiny little improvements. Advancement depends on how much you are able to practice. If there is a weekly meeting you can attend it will go faster. Real human contact, friendship and support is a great motivator.

Recommend you hit all four of your bases (reading, writing, speaking & listening) as much as possible. Do dictation from recordings of fluent speakers found on the internet and elsewhere (You are allowed to listen as many times as you need to. Test yourself with the accompanying text. No peeking!) Go nice and slow, like tai chi, and remember Arnold Schwarzenegger's advice: Reps, reps reps! Read aloud from texts using a bold, florid voice. (That's important. Using a nervous, doubting or too-quiet voice is not very good for learning). Try a play for that, like La Revizoro, then you can do different voices. Go to as many events and meetings as you can. Sing songs, even if they have silly lyrics, because singing works. You're a young woman in Esperanto, which is a bit like being a guy at a ballroom dancing class -- everyone's really glad to see you, and are keener than usual to help. So maybe start a weekly photo blog and solicit corrections. (Photo blog because text alone is not very interesting).

Hope this helps!

BenjamenoPoeto:

erinja:Remember that these exams are also used to give people tutoring rights

hm, is this true? tutoring for what, where?

I agree with everything you say, it shouldn't be too easy I was just venting I guess. I always thought I had a 'knack' for languages -maybe I don't lol

Troyus23:

BenjamenoPoeto:

erinja:Remember that these exams are also used to give people tutoring rights

hm, is this true? tutoring for what, where?

I agree with everything you say, it shouldn't be too easy I was just venting I guess. I always thought I had a 'knack' for languages -maybe I don't lol

I did it! Mi pasis la bazan nivelon ekzameno! oh FRABJUOUS DAY!

Troyus23:

Troyus23:

BenjamenoPoeto:

erinja:Remember that these exams are also used to give people tutoring rights

hm, is this true? tutoring for what, where?

I agree with everything you say, it shouldn't be too easy I was just venting I guess. I always thought I had a 'knack' for languages -maybe I don't lol

I did it! Mi pasis la bazan nivelon ekzameno! oh FRABJUOUS DAY!

:-/ IT ONLY TOOK 6 ATTEMPTS!