Moosader:... hiring a professional like that isn't cheap...

Did someone say outsourcing? I am sure websites can be developed very inexpensively if programmers, web developers, designers, and what-not are hired from India, the Philippines, and other third world countries.

Generous American and Canadian companies pay Indians one-third (?) ($1,000) of the average salary there. Normal ones pay around US $350. And miserly and shrewd ones want you to work for US $200 a month for a five-day-a-week, eight-hour-a-day job. (Source: personal experience. I am a cyber coolie! )

I am sure an Esperanto website based in a rich country (or belonging to a rich man) can do a fantastic job with these people. They will be glad to work ten hours a day, six days a week if someone is paying them US $1,000 a month. And we will find some very talented people (local university toppers, Esperanto enthusiasts) ending up working on these projects.

yomakun:... some Esperanto website that still use drown maps instead of using Google map add-on OpenStreetMap ...

fixt 4 u

yomakun:
I'm new to Esperanto but I just realized that almost every Esperanto website look and feel so 90's or 80's

The web was created only in 1989, so I am not sure what a website from the 1980s could look like. Anyway, I wonder how you imagine sites from the 1990s look? 2000s yes, that's what e.g. lernu! and ReVo look like, but 1990s? The thing I have in mind for sites from the 1990s is white backgrounds with sans-serif fonts and a lot of unnecessary (navigational) images, all realized using frames. Oh, and an "optimized for Netscape Navigator" logo.

yomakun:and you look to some Esperanto website that still use drown maps instead of using Google map add-on

That has advantages and disadvantages. JavaScript-based maps (preferably that should of course be OpenStreetMap, not proprietary Google Maps) cannot e.g. easily be saved as images, and they cannot be used without JavaScript.

yomakun:
don't except young people to respect at that!

Seems I as a 19-year-old am no longer one of the "young people" you're talking about ... I guess that's life.

yomakun:
Sorry if I just been so honest but someone need to say this.

No problem with honesty, but it would help to word your criticism more constructively. Which sites are you talking about specifically? There are so many sites in Esperanto that it might well be that we don't all usually look at the same ones.

makis:

xdzt:I think the other thing being overlooked here is that a lot of these websites were probably made 10 years ago. There's just not a ton of interest in Esperanto, so these small websites are made by a hobbyist and then just hang out for a while.

I agree.

While looking around for meetup groups, I found a couple of group pages that were using a tripod hosted website. Tripod! I thought they went down years ago...

Oh, Tripod...
Have you checked Meetup.com for meetups?

The page I'm working on is going to basically just aggregate EO stuff I can find from around the 'net and link to it, as well as a place to host my own comics/animations/video games in EO. It will have the ability for other people to suggest EO sites, or even have a place to upload their own comics and such if they don't want to start their own site.

Moosader:

Oh, Tripod...
Have you checked Meetup.com for meetups?

The page I'm working on is going to basically just aggregate EO stuff I can find from around the 'net and link to it, as well as a place to host my own comics/animations/video games in EO. It will have the ability for other people to suggest EO sites, or even have a place to upload their own comics and such if they don't want to start their own site.

I would definitely use a site like that!

I think it depends in part on what the intention of a website is, its purpose. I created a reference summary of Interlingua using a simple free HTML editor (one that let me flip back and forth between the editor and a browser to see how it looked as I went) with no active content and no images except one small logo at the top and a basic patterned background. No frames, just a few tables. No elaborate bells, whistles, and gongs.

My intention was that it could be printed out in hard copy directly from any more or less competent web browser (I use Opera) for those who want something tangible. I am not skilled in web programming, and I was/am not trying to be. I deliberately kept it simple to allow for a printout.

Just my humble opinion but I suspect that web sites from Iceland, Norway, Israel, etc. are super modern and cool but that is not moving their languages foreward at all. I am the only person I have met here in Florida in the last 21 years who speaks fluent Norwegian So the number of people who speak and are learning Esperanto here is tremendous in comparison. I also studied Hawai'ian and joined a Hawai'ian culture group but nobody was interested in learning the language - they just wanted to cook in the imu (earth oven) and learn the hula or warriors ceremonial dances and stuff. I think they even thought that I was strange because I actually learned to speak some Hawai'ian and then went there to practice. So I don't know about cool web sites - if they are helpful, great!
BTW some people may think that the USA is a "rich" country but I can tell you from my own experience that we are a lot of unrich people living here - yes there are rich people here but they are seldom interested in charitable causes unless their names come out in starred lights on TV for their big hearts and open pocket books.

robbkvasnak:Just my humble opinion but I suspect that web sites from Iceland, Norway, Israel, etc. are super modern and cool but that is not moving their languages foreward at all. I am the only person I have met here in Florida in the last 21 years who speaks fluent Norwegian So the number of people who speak and are learning Esperanto here is tremendous in comparison. I also studied Hawai'ian and joined a Hawai'ian culture group but nobody was interested in learning the language - they just wanted to cook in the imu (earth oven) and learn the hula or warriors ceremonial dances and stuff. I think they even thought that I was strange because I actually learned to speak some Hawai'ian and then went there to practice. So I don't know about cool web sites - if they are helpful, great!
BTW some people may think that the USA is a "rich" country but I can tell you from my own experience that we are a lot of unrich people living here - yes there are rich people here but they are seldom interested in charitable causes unless their names come out in starred lights on TV for their big hearts and open pocket books.

wow I never thought the US have unrich people even though that doesn't mean poor! thanks for giving us your opinion you give us a new angle to look at.

bartlett22183:I think it depends in part on what the intention of a website is, its purpose. I created a reference summary of Interlingua using a simple free HTML editor (one that let me flip back and forth between the editor and a browser to see how it looked as I went) with no active content and no images except one small logo at the top and a basic patterned background. No frames, just a few tables. No elaborate bells, whistles, and gongs.

My intention was that it could be printed out in hard copy directly from any more or less competent web browser (I use Opera) for those who want something tangible. I am not skilled in web programming, and I was/am not trying to be. I deliberately kept it simple to allow for a printout.

You know you could make this content available on downloadable PDF then it will be not only for printout but also for digital use (go mobile) and stil have a modern website.

robbkvasnak:I actually learned to speak some Hawai'ian and then went there to practice. ... BTW some people may think that the USA is a "rich" country but I can tell you from my own experience that we are a lot of unrich people living here - yes there are rich people here but they are seldom interested in charitable causes unless their names come out in starred lights on TV for their big hearts and open pocket books.

Maybe they're spending all their money on trips to Hawai'i.