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言語: English
Kirilo81 (プロフィールを表示) 2014年1月23日 9:28:23
Oijos:What you mean? I don't understand. English-language discussions about English language are not allowed. I did not start this discussion.I sincerely apologize, Oijos, I mixed up two posts.
Clarence666 (プロフィールを表示) 2014年4月6日 15:33:06
sudanglo:It is a favourite sport at the annual British Esperanto Congress to read out the names of those members of the association who have died that year. This produces a warm glow in the attending members (a largely geriatric crowd)I'd prefer to discuss the overdue language reforms, but apparently the Esperanto Congresses are not "designed" for such malicious activity. | Mi preferus pridiskuti la posttempaj reformoj de la lingvo, sed la Esperantaj Kongresoj sxajne ne estas "konstruitaj" por tiaj malicaj taskoj.
Oijos:Please reduce your depression. I passed the B level yesterday. | Bonvolu redukti vian depresion. Hieraux mi sukcese trapasis la B nivelon.erinja:A: 3458 B: 902 C: 449That's depressing.
Gxis la Fina Venko
ruth3209 (プロフィールを表示) 2014年4月6日 23:42:47
. The great thing about the exams is that I learn more, every time I take one. Now I am a "lingvohelpanto", a live tutor for Ana Pana, and I am enjoying that a lot. Keep learning, don't give up! Clarence666 (プロフィールを表示) 2014年6月9日 13:39:52
ruth3209:When I first started using lernu!, a little over a year ago, I started at the beginning with Ana Pana. I thought I could never ever pass the C levelNow I passed the C level too. | Nun mi sukcese trapasis ankaux la nivelon C.
1Guy1 (プロフィールを表示) 2014年6月10日 19:07:15
Oijos: You seem to be in a delusion that the Lernu!-courses are valuable. Very few would pay for them – Esperanto is too easy and Internet and libraries are not short of material.To me that reads as plain rude. You have not paid anything to be here, you have not paid anything to be allowed here to insult your hosts. Lernu (apart from a few quirky forum members) gives a warm welcome. What have they done to deserve this treatment except try and teach people Esperanto for free?
TKNIGHT (プロフィールを表示) 2014年6月12日 12:06:45
Oijos skribis:@ That guy. Saluton, I'm a new member (4 days old). I'm ignorant as a brick with the language right now, but as an English Teacher and Literacy Specialist with extensive self-teaching in Spanish, Latin, and German (Ok, I'm maybe I'm not as dumb as a brick with Esperanto; actually, I'm finding it quite easy), I can tell you that it's one of the best programs I've encountered so far for self-moderated language acquisition. It's on the ugly side, but it's also not part of the "New Web" we're all used to where aesthetics are often as important as design. Lernu appears to me to be concerned primarily with utility, and that's fine.
You seem to be in a delusion that the Lernu!-courses are valuable. Very few would pay for them – Esperanto is too easy and Internet and libraries are not short of material.
Now, I'm on lesson 11. I just aced Testo 1. I imagine there are course-wide exams or something, but from what I saw, the tests, more than the actual lessons, are the weaker part of the program. However, sufficient flexibility is built into the answering mechanism that it's surprisingly adept at interpreting user input with the acceptable range. In terms of actual teaching and assessment, THAT IS WHAT THE TEST IS SUPPOSED TO DO. Like, precisely. The objective is that you understand X, and so the thing tests you specifically on X. If it tested you on Y, you'd be SOL and up the creek sans the paddle. I'm grateful Lernu doesn't sacrifice relevant material in order to achieve some artificial rigor. Let it be.
Oijos (プロフィールを表示) 2014年6月12日 15:58:19
By the way, I find Lernu!'s courses childish and stupid, though I don't have much experience with them. The best courses were deleted some years ago for some idiotic reason. My feedback for one course here
erinja (プロフィールを表示) 2014年6月12日 20:58:07
I'm really impressed that you seem to know which aspects of the new site would potentially come with payment and you know that people wouldn't pay it. It's especially miraculous since the team hasn't decided on any of these things yet - which aspects of the relaunched (still mostly free) site would come with payment and how much that payment would be. But you're probably right. If any aspect of the site at all came with payment, people would flee the site and go to sites that are 100% free for every single service.
That's probably why LiveMocha has been such a failure, because it offers a mix of free and paid services.