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Biggest issues in learning

od chasesan, 2. svibnja 2014.

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chasesan (Prikaz profila) 2. svibnja 2014. 20:36:14

The difficulties of learning Esperanto have nothing to do with the language itself. That is to say, Esperanto is a very easy language to learn.

The problem is staying focused on the language. There is very little visual media for Esperanto (movies), and not very much audio media either (music). Other people speak it of course, but finding an experienced speaker to talk with so you can practice is difficult.

There is of course the forums, but I personally find it almost impossible (and very frustrating) to learn by speaking it by text. I spent 2-3 weeks learning it at one point, but after that, I forgot everything because I had nothing to use it on.

I need a stronger reason to learn Esperanto rather then just as a springboard to learning other languages. So I think before I attempt to learn Esperanto again, I need to find one or more experienced speakers who are willing to actually talk with me.

I am personally a skilled programmer, with over 15 years of experience, I have learned many "languages" before. But never another human one. If you are interested in helping me, I would certainly be willing to help you get off the ground learning to program, or other related skills. I am also a novice artist, but I can't help as much there.

Altulo (Prikaz profila) 2. svibnja 2014. 20:52:21

I, too, have had issues with learning Esperanto without anybody to speak it with. I have mostly convinced my fiance to learn it with me, but she is yet to hop on board. My biggest reason for learning it is to travel. I want to see as many places in the world as I can, but I don't want to learn a bunch of languages where I might forget a lot before I have a chance to use them. Esperanto, and the Pasporta Servo, are great vehicles to that end. I know, from a few other threads here, that there are one or two Skype groups set up, but I can't speak for them as I haven't signed up for them. I'd be willing to join, but don't know if any are still active. I clicked on a couple of links, but couldn't get through. (That might be because of the computer I use at work.) Should you wish, I'd be happy to Skype so we both can practice. ridulo.gif

lupo_ (Prikaz profila) 2. svibnja 2014. 21:06:00

So I think before I attempt to learn Esperanto again, I need to find one or more experienced speakers who are willing to actually talk with me.
If we all do the same there will never be anyone to speak to, right?
What you could do is go to the Skype thread and find people willing to _speak_, not just text.
I need a stronger reason to learn Esperanto rather then just as a springboard to learning other languages.
Isn't ending the reign of "english as international language" a reason enough? okulumo.gif

Leandro_rj (Prikaz profila) 2. svibnja 2014. 21:31:18

chasesan:The difficulties of learning Esperanto have nothing to do with the language itself. That is to say, Esperanto is a very easy language to learn.

The problem is staying focused on the language. There is very little visual media for Esperanto (movies), and not very much audio media either (music). Other people speak it of course, but finding an experienced speaker to talk with so you can practice is difficult.

There is of course the forums, but I personally find it almost impossible (and very frustrating) to learn by speaking it by text. I spent 2-3 weeks learning it at one point, but after that, I forgot everything because I had nothing to use it on.

I need a stronger reason to learn Esperanto rather then just as a springboard to learning other languages. So I think before I attempt to learn Esperanto again, I need to find one or more experienced speakers who are willing to actually talk with me.

I am personally a skilled programmer, with over 15 years of experience, I have learned many "languages" before. But never another human one. If you are interested in helping me, I would certainly be willing to help you get off the ground learning to program, or other related skills. I am also a novice artist, but I can't help as much there.
Hello, how are you?

I understand you, I am just a Esperantist because I have SO MANY things that motives me.

I want to help you, we can talk on skype, hang out or retbabilejo.net. I will introduce to you many Esperantists from many countries to talk with you, I bet you will find it great!

My skype username is : leandro_rj3

My facebook is https://www.facebook.com/leandro.silvestre.18488

Use youtube, facebook, Esperanto radio that is avaliable in internet, read books.....

See you!

Tempodivalse (Prikaz profila) 3. svibnja 2014. 02:38:19

Alas, this has been a persistent problem for me. Text practice is easy -- I have plenty of Esperanto outlets in IRC, these forums, and Vikipedio. But given the lack of any speakers in my area, I have almost no opportunity to practice my speaking and listening comprehension skills ...

In fact, I listened to full-speed, fluent spoken Esperanto for the first time only recently (a YouTube debate regarding neologisms), despite already being able to write and read at a high level. To my surprise, I was able to understand 95% of the conversation. On a second listening I would probably understand almost everything. I can heartily recommend Esperanto YouTube (not just the introductory/training videos).

As for speaking, you can use Skype, if you can find a willing interlocutor. Or, if you're not too self-conscious, you can talk to yourself in Esperanto, in a normal voice. Talk about what you did, your observations, your plans, etc. I like to do this a lot, especially while walking outside -- and if you hold up a cell phone to your ear while speaking, nobody will think you're strange.

erinja (Prikaz profila) 4. svibnja 2014. 12:07:54

My boyfriend has been studying Esperanto. He can talk to me but I can't talk to him all the time. I recommend "Pasporto al la tuta mondo" for listening practice. You can find it for free on YouTube.

For speaking, Skype is great. But I also encourage you to try to find some kind of Esperanto meeting near you and make plans to go. Skype is good practice but it's not a full substitute for spending a day or two speaking Esperanto (or even just listening to the conversations of others!)

Where do you live?

Eltwish (Prikaz profila) 4. svibnja 2014. 15:33:02

If you will pardon my tooting my own horn, I have a web series that may be of interest to you, in which I recommend and discuss various works in Esperanto that may be worth checking out. There are only two episodes at the moment but it's still in active production, and I hope it can give you a springboard from which to seek out other interesting material.

There is definitely a good amount of music out there, and a good number of quality podcasts. There are indeed very few films, but I have some optimism that independent content production is on an upswing in general, which would be good news for Esperanto in that respect.

chasesan (Prikaz profila) 6. svibnja 2014. 19:59:48

Thank you for your responses so far. What I mean to say is learning to speak/write Esperanto by only text is difficult. I will look into using skype and perhaps mumble soon however. Thanks for all your suggestions.

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