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has everyone hard about how Duolingo finally gave in?

de mangakoibito, 26 septembre 2014

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Langue: English

mangakoibito (Voir le profil) 26 septembre 2014 00:45:14

yup that's right Esperanto has finally been added to the incubator! look proof! http://incubator.duolingo.com/courses/eo/en/status
i'm soooooooooooooooo excited!

Leke (Voir le profil) 27 septembre 2014 12:27:52

So what made them give in? I heard Esperanto doesn't really support their business model.

Fenris_kcf (Voir le profil) 27 septembre 2014 12:55:23

Leke:So what made them give in? I heard Esperanto doesn't really support their business model.
Seems like the demand for it was much higher than expected.

Alkanadi (Voir le profil) 28 septembre 2014 09:14:58

That is good. Let us know when it is ready. I have never used Duolingo before. What is their method?

jdawdy (Voir le profil) 5 octobre 2014 00:28:40

Alkanadi:That is good. Let us know when it is ready. I have never used Duolingo before. What is their method?
I'm curious about this too- I've never used it, but it gets rave reviews. I am using memrise.com, which I think is similar, and it's nothing short of a godsend for me: its basically an online flashcard-type drill that follows what is apparently a pretty complex algorithem to help you put words into long term memory. So, its mainly limited to memorization and vocabulary, but hey, that's where all the heavy lifting really is when studying a language.

With memrise you "plant" (i.e. learn) a word, and the after some hours it tells you to "water" your "plants" (i.e. repeat/drill the words you learned earlier). It gives you words you miss more often, and ones you get right less often. You get points and ranks to show how much you've done.

Best of all there are several Esperanto (and Russian, which I also study) lessons already available.

ruth3209 (Voir le profil) 5 octobre 2014 03:51:17

For more information about the work that is being done on the Esperanto course for English speakers on Duolingo, join the Facebook group "Laborgrupo por Duolingo en Esperanto". It is definitely worth checking out Duolingo, a free site which currently has over 20 million active language learners worldwide, according their own statistics on the website. Because of the huge number of users, there is a potential for many thousands of language learners to start studying Esperanto when the course goes into beta testing in a few months. If you are fluent in both English and Esperanto, you can sign up to volunteer to help build the course.

Based on my own experience, I believe that the best way to learn Esperanto is to use several methods at once. When I started, I used lernu!, the postal (snail-mail) course through Esperanto USA, the Richardson book, and the Intense Esperanto app all at the same time! So while I think that the Duolingo course will be a very valuable addition to Esperanto language learning resources, it will never be the one and only way to learn the language.

JEllis (Voir le profil) 5 octobre 2014 04:37:15

jdawdy:
Alkanadi:That is good. Let us know when it is ready. I have never used Duolingo before. What is their method?
I'm curious about this too- I've never used it, but it gets rave reviews. I am using memrise.com, which I think is similar, and it's nothing short of a godsend for me: its basically an online flashcard-type drill that follows what is apparently a pretty complex algorithem to help you put words into long term memory. So, its mainly limited to memorization and vocabulary, but hey, that's where all the heavy lifting really is when studying a language.

With memrise you "plant" (i.e. learn) a word, and the after some hours it tells you to "water" your "plants" (i.e. repeat/drill the words you learned earlier). It gives you words you miss more often, and ones you get right less often. You get points and ranks to show how much you've done.

Best of all there are several Esperanto (and Russian, which I also study) lessons already available.
Memrise is really extraordinary. I use it to review and develop vocabulary and phrases every day. Duolingo is also a great tool for other languages. I will be happy to see them add Esperanto to their menu in the future.

Paullen (Voir le profil) 28 janvier 2015 10:16:03

I am looking forward to the completion of the Esperanto course at Duolingo as well. It has over 10558 pre-signed up at this point. I am not sure how many they normally get for pre-sign up on languages but it sounds like a good number to me. I have never used DuoLingo either but I hope to find it benificial to me along with Lernu.net and Memrise.com. I am finding leaning Esperanto a fun winter project to learn. I almost have my wise convinced to join me. That will make it a lot more fun ridulo.gif

deltasalmon (Voir le profil) 28 janvier 2015 12:36:50

I have finished two duolingo courses. Typical it starts similar to Rosetta stone with pictures and you select the word or phrase that describes them and also translating words back and forth between two languages. This is how they teach vocab and in a way some grammar. They never explain grammar rules but will have you notice patterns and try to figure out what ending a word requires by the patterns (whether it's a subject vs object or whether it's present or past etc)

It has a similar aspect to memrise where when you finish a lesson you have 5 stars on it and over time it will deteriorate and then you have to review to bring it back up to 5 stars.

Above all describes mostly learning the basics. After this you can do what they call "immersion" which is translation practice. They'll load up an article in your L2 and you translate it sentence by sentence to your L1.

ruth3209 (Voir le profil) 30 janvier 2015 01:47:49

About grammar rules on Duolingo: It is true that grammar rules are not explained, if you are using the Duolingo app only. However if you are studying from the website you can access "Notes" for each module which give detailed explanations for grammar concepts taught in that module. We are working hard to write excellent notes for the Esperanto course, so that students can easily find answers to grammar and usage questions.

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