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Nephihaha (User's profile) October 29, 2014, 3:41:29 PM
Not really sure it is necessarily "progress". The Mongolian Empire controlled more territory than Moriori* society did. Yet the Moriori managed to ban warfare on their tiny islands, while the Mongolian hordes had a fierce reputation throughout Eurasia. Likewise, the British Empire ruled more territory than Britain does now, but I think it's possibly better than it used to be.
I measure progress more by how a state/government rules a place, than how much territory it controls. If the progress to a one world government were because of peace and human rights I'd sympathise, but it seems to be mainly driven by greed for money and power right now.
* (No Esperanto version yet)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moriori_people
Altebrilas (User's profile) October 29, 2014, 4:56:12 PM
Altebrilas (User's profile) October 29, 2014, 5:00:46 PM
antoniomoya:You like it or not, one day this world will have a world government. It is the tendency of the ages. See Europe: Who would think 100 years ago, that one day there would exist the European Union?Two millenia ago, there was an european union: the Roman Empire.
In the past, the families gave way to the tribes, tribes to the regions, regions to the nations, nations to the supernations, and supernations will one day join in a world government.
You cannot stop the progress. Feliĉe.
Amike.
About progress you can't stop: Would you get into a car whose brakes are out of order?
Alkanadi (User's profile) October 30, 2014, 6:40:00 AM
In a civilized society, the weak abuse the strong.
The UN is a type of governing body. So we already have a one world government.
Without a world government, what will stop strong nations from abusing weak ones? What will stop enormous corporations from abusing their economic influence within weaker nations?
But, I believe that any governing body should have a rotation of power because power corrupts. Also, every citizen should have their voice heard - preferably through some form of democracy, which is not based on the popular vote so that larger groups don't outvote smaller groups, but rather the system would work through elected representation.
This has nothing to do with Esperanto though. It is just my opinion. Esperanto is just a language.
petropensilvanio (User's profile) October 30, 2014, 7:33:46 AM
patrik (User's profile) October 30, 2014, 1:33:34 PM
Miland (User's profile) October 30, 2014, 1:41:35 PM
Nephihaha:I think the form of such a government would lead to too much power concentrated in too few handsAgreed! Given human nature, it is better to have power dispersed and not too concentrated. This is the basis of the separation of powers that characterises the systems of government, or "constitutions" of many countries.
Leke (User's profile) October 30, 2014, 3:56:12 PM
robbkvasnak (User's profile) October 30, 2014, 4:36:07 PM
Bemused (User's profile) October 31, 2014, 12:51:37 PM
robbkvasnak: We must find a way to preserve our Earth - together.Who here is up to the challenge?
Purchase only 100% recyclable goods in 100% recyclable packaging, which has been transported using only renewable energy, and actually recycle rather than throwing away.
Use only renewable sources of energy.
At the same time contribute towards education and employment for all people on the planet so that everyone has the desire and means to do likewise.