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dylanfurr246 (Profil megtekintése) 2015. március 19. 2:17:56
makis:Hey all.I'm interested!
I'm working on getting an esperantist only social network up and running. Something like Facebook but with forums and groups.
I still need to finish translating, doing to design and all the other backend stuff but it's functional and ready to go.
So, I'm looking for some beta testers/early adopters to start using it and let me know if you come across anything funky.
Anyone interested?
ETA: The translation isn't complete but you can go ahead and check it out: verduloj.com!
DOCENKO_Dmitrij (Profil megtekintése) 2015. március 20. 2:59:43
www.lernu.net as a census of Esperantists http://en.lernu.net/komunikado/forumo/temo.php?t=1...
DOCENKO_Dmitrij (Profil megtekintése) 2015. március 20. 3:11:52
You can make a table in a publicly available Google document where features of social networks with Esperanto features are compared.
I suggest to compare the following social networks:
www.lernu.net, www.facebook.com, www.esperanto.com, www.vk.com (user interface in Esperanto, many search filters), www.edukado.net (map of Esperantists)
My list of features:
User interface in Esperanto (my suggestion is to have user interface only in Esperanto, like www.esperanto.com)
Names of users according to the rules of Esperanto
Forum in Esperanto
Possibility to subscribe to new topics in forums (this feature does not exist on www.lernu.net)
Possibility to subscribe to new answers in a forum topic
Possibility to specify your level of Esperanto
Possibility to find people by city and level of Esperanto
Many people search filters (like www.lernu.net and www.vk.com)
Possibility to post
Events (like on Facebook)
Possibility to know which events your friends joined
Possibility to see the calendar of Esperanto events
Possibility to subscribe to new Esperanto events
Map of users (ideally of only those users who have higher-than-zero level of Esperanto)
Self-cleaning of users (see explanation below)
Possibility to see the number of users by country, city and level of Esperanto
The forum in Esperanto should be like www.lernu.net or www.reddit.com but not like Facebook groups where you must request membership in each group (forum section).
If the social network has good forum, there will be a section for posting Esperanto vacancies and a section for those who look for an Esperanto job. So, the social network will have features of a job search website.
There are many classifications of levels of language proficiency. I suggest to use the following for levels of Esperanto: nula, baza, studa, baza labora, bona labora, libera. Classification of www.lernu.net (nula, baza, meza, alta) is not detailed enough.
DOCENKO_Dmitrij (Profil megtekintése) 2015. március 20. 3:12:21
The database of users should be up-to-date. This will ensure reliable statistics that will not include dead people or those who is no longer interested in Esperanto.
Once a year the website must automatically send to all registered users an email specifying their main data (name, Esperanto level, country, city) and a suggestion to update the information if it is obsolete.
Once a year the website automatically sends an email to those registered Esperantists who have not visited the website for more than a month. The email shall suggest to click on a link if the user would like to remain in the database of the website or to click another link to delete himself from the database. If a person does not react at a letter, in one month he should receive another one – the same but warning that if he does not confirm his desire to remain in the database within 1 week, his account will be deactivated. If the person does not react, his account is deactivated in a week.
If somebody had been travelling for more than 5 weeks and couldn't use the internet or he just uses the internet seldom, he will be able to log in to the website anyway, even if his account had been deactivated. So, when he logs in to the website, his account is activated and he shall receive a suggestion to update his information if it is obsolete.
lagtendisto (Profil megtekintése) 2015. március 20. 5:15:48
DOCENKO_Dmitrij:The email shall suggest to click on a link if the user would like to remain in the database of the website or to click another link to delete himself from the database.I don't like that intention of making some social conlang network database statistics an political matter. Its clear that every database notices last user account login. So it only needs proper database request to filter non-active users. There's no need to delete any user account just for reason of being non-active. That social network which deletes user accounts just for reason of being non-active, this social network will most worse 'suicide' .
Christa627 (Profil megtekintése) 2015. március 21. 0:58:54
DOCENKO_Dmitrij:Christa627,My list includes only sites that I actively use (well, I'm not very active on esperanto.com, as not much of interest goes on there). My presence on Facebook and edukado.net is only nominal, so I am not in a position to do comparision of those. I am even less qualified to say anything about vk.com, as I've never heard of it before.
You can make a table in a publicly available Google document where features of social networks with Esperanto features are compared.
I suggest to compare the following social networks:
www.lernu.net, www.facebook.com, www.esperanto.com, www.vk.com (user interface in Esperanto, many search filters), www.edukado.net (map of Esperantists)
Names of users according to the rules of EsperantoWhat does this mean? As far as I know, usernames on any site are whatever the user wants them to be. How would there be any control over this? Like, you try to sign up, and you get an error message like "Sorry, usernames cannot contain the characters Q, W, X, or Y" or something? In my opinion, it doesn't really matter what my username is; it only has to be typable, not necessarily pronouncable (although, if anyone asks, I say it's "krista-ses-du-sep" ).
I'll do my best to cover your list, but I can't give a comparision for all of the above-mentioned things, as some are more technical aspects that I know nothing about (even if I knew about them on Verduloj, I couldn't compare with other sites), such as "self-cleaning", (which Verduloj isn't old enough to even have opportunity to use). Also, keep in mind that the site is still under development, so some features that are not yet available may be in the future. Also, some features involve more complex details, that cannot be covered in a basic chart such as what I'm working on, and thus are given simply "yes" or "no", without regard to fine details.
Christa627 (Profil megtekintése) 2015. március 24. 0:18:16
*esperanto.com's way of following a forum thread, is that you mark the checkbox to "notify me of all replies" when you make a post. So you can't follow the thread, as far as I can tell, without making a post yourself.
Verduloj has a field in the profile for the time you "esperantistiĝis".
User search details:
On Lernu, you can search users by name, username, country, city, language, age, gender, level of Esperanto, level of activity, date of registration, and presence or lack of photo; and order the results by username, name, country, city, age, gender, photo, registration, or last login, with option of reverse order.
On esperanto.com, you can search by username, country, city, interests, and vocation; no ordering options.
On Verduloj, you can search by gender, age, and country; and order by last login, date of registration, or "most followed".
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So, now you know everything you could ever need to know...
Christa627 (Profil megtekintése) 2015. március 24. 0:34:35
Christa627:On Lernu, you can search users by name, username, country, city, language, age, gender, level of Esperanto, level of activity, date of registration, and presence or lack of photo; and order the results by username, name, country, city, age, gender, photo, registration, or last login, with option of reverse order.And my search for all users in the US just yielded a message telling me there were too many results!
Ordering by gender apparently puts unspecified first, then female, then male.
makis (Profil megtekintése) 2015. március 24. 1:27:40
This could be done. So, I would add that as "not yet".
DOCENKO_Dmitrij (Profil megtekintése) 2015. március 25. 6:27:43
Based on your table I prepared my comparison. It includes more social networks.
http://discoverfuture.blogspot.com/2014/03/esperan...