What country and city have the highest concentration of Esperantists?
DOCENKO_Dmitrij :lta, 8. maaliskuuta 2015
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Alkanadi (Näytä profiilli) 9. maaliskuuta 2015 7.11.59
vejktoro:So people don't bump old posts.Alkanadi:If there is a new revamp coming up then I would like to suggest a change so that forum posts older than 3 months can't be bumped to the top.Why?
vejktoro (Näytä profiilli) 9. maaliskuuta 2015 7.59.54
Alkanadi:Why is this undesirable?vejktoro:So people don't bump old posts.Alkanadi:If there is a new revamp coming up then I would like to suggest a change so that forum posts older than 3 months can't be bumped to the top.Why?
Rugxdoma (Näytä profiilli) 9. maaliskuuta 2015 10.04.05
Alkanadi:If there is a new revamp coming up then I would like to suggest a change so that forum posts older than 3 months can't be bumped to the top.I think there are many old threads, which deserve to be revived.
Frano (Näytä profiilli) 10. maaliskuuta 2015 8.37.31
DOCENKO_Dmitrij:Do you know a country where the concentration of Esperantists is even higher?some statistics can be found here
What city has the heighest concentration of Esperantists?
Tempodivalse (Näytä profiilli) 10. maaliskuuta 2015 17.03.43
vikungen (Näytä profiilli) 10. maaliskuuta 2015 18.28.44
Tempodivalse:The Vatican must surely have had among the highest concentration of Esperantists when John Paul II was still alive - at least 1 out of 900 (or whatever the population of the Vatican was at the time ...)If the whole world had the same concentration of Esperanto speakers as the vatican might have had (1 in 900), there would be 7,7 million Esperanto speakers. Which is still lower than some of the higher estimates of Esperanto speakers (around 8 million).
Tempodivalse (Näytä profiilli) 10. maaliskuuta 2015 20.14.37
vikungen:8 million?? I find that estimate very optimistic ... The highest reasonable estimate that I have seen is 2 million, made by Ethnologue. That seems slightly on the high side, but still plausible.Tempodivalse:The Vatican must surely have had among the highest concentration of Esperantists when John Paul II was still alive - at least 1 out of 900 (or whatever the population of the Vatican was at the time ...)If the whole world had the same concentration of Esperanto speakers as the vatican might have had (1 in 900), there would be 7,7 million Esperanto speakers. Which is still lower than some of the higher estimates of Esperanto speakers (around 8 million).
My own (quite informal) estimate is around 1 million, based on quantitative observations of web activity, web content, and print publications. Esperanto seems considerably better represented on the Internet than the smaller regional languages of Europe (for instance, Macedonian or Estonian, each of which have around 1.5m speakers). Even if we suppose that Esperanto speakers are much more likely than Macedonian or Estonian speakers to be active participants in Internet-related activities, and thus increase the content-to-speakers ratio, the number must still be fairly significant.
Also, Lernu statistics are a poor way of determining which areas have the most Esperantists. Even if you could control for language level, location, and activity levels, this doesn't consider that many Esperantists might simply not be interested in joining Lernu. So we would have to guess the Lernu-Esperantists to non-Lernu-Esperantists ratio, which seems difficult to do with any accuracy.
Short of some systematic multinational census, I don't think we'll ever know as much as we'd like to about Esperantist demographics.
robbkvasnak (Näytä profiilli) 10. maaliskuuta 2015 20.42.59
novatago (Näytä profiilli) 10. maaliskuuta 2015 21.38.36
DOCENKO_Dmitrij: the concentration of Esperantists in Andorra is higher than in Hungary. In Andorra 1 Esperantist per 3180 people, in Hungary 1 Esperantist per 7646 people.I would say that number about Andorra in Lernu is not real. Some nationalists from the region of Catalonia chose Andorra as their state instead of Spain.
Can we call Andorra the country which is the most promising for Esperanto to become an official language?
Ĝis, Novatago.
DOCENKO_Dmitrij (Näytä profiilli) 11. maaliskuuta 2015 2.33.45
If to base calculations on the number of lernu.net users who have some knowledge of Esperanto (basic, medium, high), then the countries with the highest concentration of Esperantists seem to be:
1) Vatikan
1 Esperantist per 441 people (thouh the error can be high because of low number of population and only 2 Esperantists)
2) Andorra
1 Esperantist per 3180 people
3) Hungary
1 Esperantist per 7646 people
Some other mentioned countries (Monaco, Singapore, San Marino) have much lower concentrations.
In Budapest (the capital of Hungary) 1 Esperantist is per 6634 people.