drugulas:Ok I'll spend more time reading the Grammar section of lernu. Thanks guys for helping me. The example sentences really helps me understand the differences between the Participles -ant and the suffix -ad.

thanks

Don't worry. This problem crops up a lot, in my experience, among anglophones. In English, "-ing" is used for adverbial participles, adjectival participles, and gerunds, and if you aren't already well-aware of the distinction between those, you will naturally conflate the discrete Esperanto equivalents -ante, -anta, -ado.

I think the best way to learn Esperanto is to first learn the basics of your own language's grammar - in particular, be comfortable with concepts like direct objects, participles, infinitives, conjunctions, and demonstrative pronouns. It will then take nothing to "map" Esperanto's regularity on top of that knowledge.

Tempodivalse:

drugulas:Ok I'll spend more time reading the Grammar section of lernu. Thanks guys for helping me. The example sentences really helps me understand the differences between the Participles -ant and the suffix -ad.

thanks

Don't worry. This problem crops up a lot, in my experience, among anglophones. In English, "-ing" is used for adverbial participles, adjectival participles, and gerunds, and if you aren't already well-aware of the distinction between those, you will naturally conflate the discrete Esperanto equivalents -ante, -anta, -ado.

I think the best way to learn Esperanto is to first learn the basics of your own language's grammar - in particular, be comfortable with concepts like direct objects, participles, infinitives, conjunctions, and demonstrative pronouns. It will then take nothing to "map" Esperanto's regularity on top of that knowledge.

Yea, since I started learning esperanto I've noticed how much I've understand english grammar or becoming more conscience about english and the things being said in general.

drugulas:[…] since I started learning esperanto […] becoming more conscience about english and the things being said in general […]

I think that happens whenever you try to learn any language. The thing with Esperanto, in my personal experience, is that due to its special structure (i.e. regularity, transparency, etc.), it behaves like a key that opens an access to language conscience, kind of.

A few days ago, I was reading a publication by Angela Tellier (PhD candidate at the University of Essex) about the progress of the Springboard to Languages Program at some primary schools in England, and the following sentence caught immediately my attention:

“For young children, who delight in taking things apart and putting them back together, Esperanto is a de luxe construction kit for language learning”.
What a beautiful way to put it.

You can read the research here: Esperanto as a starter language.

dbob:“For young children, who delight in taking things apart and putting them back together, Esperanto is a de luxe construction kit for language learning”.
What a beautiful way to put it.

+1. Now this is really a beautiful way of putting it. I felt the same when I started studying Latin in 5th grade.

Tempodivalse:I think the best way to learn Esperanto is to first learn the basics of your own language's grammar - in particular, be comfortable with concepts like direct objects, participles, infinitives, conjunctions, and demonstrative pronouns. It will then take nothing to "map" Esperanto's regularity on top of that knowledge.

In my case that didn't work. I felt bored a lot to relearn my native language from scratch. Instead of I found it very motivating how conlangs are capable to explain such 'cryptic' linguistic concepts like personal pronoun (= who instead of what* words; Lidepla: hu-inplas-kwo-worda) etc.

*substantive

spreecamper:In my case that didn't work. I felt bored a lot to relearn my native language from scratch. Instead of I found it very motivating how conlangs are capable to explain such 'cryptic' linguistic concepts like personal pronoun (= who instead of what* words; Lidepla: hu-inplas-kwo-worda) etc.

*substantive

It's not so much "relearning" your native language, as simply familiarising yourself with some basic grammatical concepts, which are often not taught properly in school, and later are forgotten.

I've been in some university-level language classes where there were students who had to ask what an object was. If you don't have that kind of basic awareness, you're not going to get far with Esperanto.

A native speaker's knowledge of his language and its grammar is frequently dictated only by intuition. Those intuitions are not based on abstract-level awareness, but rather on rote repetition, and are often not transferable to a new language, which operates differently. They have to be "unlearned" to a certain extent. If you can grasp grammatical abstractions, you will have an easier time not letting your native tongue's "intuitions" having an inappropriate influence.

Tempodivalse:It's not so much "relearning" your native language, as simply familiarising yourself with some basic grammatical concepts, which are often not taught properly in school, and later are forgotten.

Okay, I see.

Tempodivalse:If you can grasp grammatical abstractions, you will have an easier time not letting your native tongue's "intuitions" having an inappropriate influence.

Inside primary school some subject of 'Conlanging' would be great. Language Construction Kit could be useful to realize that.