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simplifying "to be" (esti)

de dnaleor, 2015-julio-06

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Lingvo: English

Vestitor (Montri la profilon) 2015-julio-08 17:50:07

orthohawk:

As I said, I know the particularities of this dialect better than most if not all of you.
Not difficult if you're the only one using it.

Vestitor (Montri la profilon) 2015-julio-08 17:52:17

dnaleor:
Kaj kial estas tiu danĝera?
Vi ne komprenus min se mi tajpus tiel?
Almenaŭ mia versio de esperanto estas kohera kun la bazaj principoj.
Just some helpful corrections.

orthohawk (Montri la profilon) 2015-julio-08 17:58:24

dnaleor:
Breto: Either way, as long as we all understand what's being said, who cares how it's said?
Vestitor:Careful, that could easily apply to the question of the original poster of this thread.
Kaj kial 'as tiu danĝera?
Vi ne komprenus min se mi tajpus tiel?
No, actually, I don't. Thee could be meaning "sxajnas" or actually any verb from "amas" to "zorgas" at the same time making the often-made-by-beginners mistake of leaving off the accustive. (hell, i'm not above that mistake myself unless I'm careful!)

dnaleor:Almenaŭ mia versio de esperanto 'as kohera kun la bazaj principoj.
There is no "baza principo" that allows any word (other than "la" or a singular nominative noun, as allowed by Rule #16) to leave off any letters and be replaced with an apostrophe.

and yes, that also goes for the forms "sal'" and "salut'" as substitutes for "saluton".

robbkvasnak (Montri la profilon) 2015-julio-08 18:27:41

Actually, I think we should stop using I am, you are, he/she/it is, we are, you are, and they are in English when it would be just as understandable to say: I b, you b, he/she/it b, we b, you b, they b. And the past tense I b'd, you b'd, he/she/it b'd, we b'd, you b'd, they b'd. It b time to improve English!

erinja (Montri la profilon) 2015-julio-08 18:55:23

robbkvasnak:Actually, I think we should stop using I am, you are, he/she/it is, we are, you are, and they are in English when it would be just as understandable to say: I b, you b, he/she/it b, we b, you b, they b. And the past tense I b'd, you b'd, he/she/it b'd, we b'd, you b'd, they b'd. It b time to improve English!
Your reform is not beautiful enough for me. B is an ugly letter and S is beautiful. Therefore, I suggest s instead of b. I s, you s, he/she/it s, etc. And that way we can keep 's. That's a good idea! is now short for: That s a good idea. It s time to improve English! The language evolves through its speakers so people will be kind and receptive if I go to an English learning forum and suggest my great idea. This language can't stay so stagnant and boring, it needs to evolve with the times or else there is no point in learning it.

orthohawk (Montri la profilon) 2015-julio-08 19:14:54

robbkvasnak:Actually, I think we should stop using I am, you are, he/she/it is, we are, you are, and they are in English when it would be just as understandable to say: I b, you b, he/she/it b, we b, you b, they b. And the past tense I b'd, you b'd, he/she/it b'd, we b'd, you b'd, they b'd. It b time to improve English!
I once goed an entire day making all verbs regular. thee shalled have seed the looks I keeped getting. (OTOH everyone understanded me, so.......)

robbkvasnak (Montri la profilon) 2015-julio-08 19:17:56

I s thinking the looks canned b cutted with a kanive!

orthohawk (Montri la profilon) 2015-julio-08 19:25:13

Vestitor:
orthohawk:

As I said, I know the particularities of this dialect better than most if not all of you.
Not difficult if you're the only one using it.
easy to pontificate when one ignores the evidence, isn't it?

Bemused (Montri la profilon) 2015-julio-09 01:54:43

robbkvasnak:Actually, I think we should stop using I am, you are, he/she/it is, we are, you are, and they are in English when it would be just as understandable to say: I b, you b, he/she/it b, we b, you b, they b. And the past tense I b'd, you b'd, he/she/it b'd, we b'd, you b'd, they b'd. It b time to improve English!
As a native English speaker I think that is an excellent suggestion.
It would make the language easier for learners while still being easily comprehensible by existing speakers.
The present tense form could easily be abbreviated to I'b, you'b, we'b, they'b, he'b, she'b, it'b. (That last one might be a tongue twister).

Two questions.
1)What would be the future tense of this form?
2) How would one pronounce "b"?

nornen (Montri la profilon) 2015-julio-09 04:18:52

erinja:
robbkvasnak:Actually, I think we should stop using I am, you are, he/she/it is, we are, you are, and they are in English when it would be just as understandable to say: I b, you b, he/she/it b, we b, you b, they b. And the past tense I b'd, you b'd, he/she/it b'd, we b'd, you b'd, they b'd. It b time to improve English!
Your reform is not beautiful enough for me. B is an ugly letter and S is beautiful. Therefore, I suggest s instead of b. I s, you s, he/she/it s, etc. And that way we can keep 's. That's a good idea! is now short for: That s a good idea. It s time to improve English! The language evolves through its speakers so people will be kind and receptive if I go to an English learning forum and suggest my great idea. This language can't stay so stagnant and boring, it needs to evolve with the times or else there is no point in learning it.
Administrator shouldn't mock users.
Or at least have two different accounts: one for blue posts and one for making fun of new users (dnaleor, breto et alii).
Other users shouldn't either. Especially those who "feel betrayed".
If a user starts a new thread with the words "Mi jam bedaŭras ĉi tiun fadenon", and then has to clarify that "Mi ŝatus, se ĉi tiu fadeno povus resti interparoladon ĝentilan kaj racian", maybe something is going wrong.

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