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Esperanto on your CV/resumé?

de Vestitor, 27 de agosto de 2015

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Vestitor (Mostrar o perfil) 28 de agosto de 2015 09:27:05

Bemused:
Fascinating.
So which branch of Frisian would be the least contaminated by other languages, and the closest to the language spoken in Britian prior to the arrival of Anglo/Saxons ?
I'd say that's a tricky question. The language has had low periods and disappeared in some parts. You can find Frisian in Germany too (largely near the Danish border), through immigration from East Friesland. It is no longer completely mutually intelligible with Frisian in Friesland.

That Family tree misses out 'Middle Frisian (c.1500-1800). The written language almost disappeared in that time and old Fries was only spoken in the countryside. I'd say a fair amount of shift happened during 3-400 years. So-called New Frisian has a new normalised spelling and lots of crossover words from Dutch. You can see the lack of influence of the written language because the main newspapers (perhaps almost all) are written in Dutch.

Maybe in the old dialects (like on some of the Wadden Islands) have still extant links. Some of the current West coast would have been under water.

tommjames (Mostrar o perfil) 28 de agosto de 2015 11:02:26

Vestitor:I wondered if any speakers here put Esperanto on their CV along with any other languages spoken?
I've had it on my CV for about 8 years now. Most people seem not to notice it but it's come up a couple of times in interviews. Most notably there was one situation where they made a point of raising it, apparently feeling the need to examine me and find out whether I'm the sort of person who habitually wastes their time on pointless, nerdy activities. I set them right about it, which of course they didn't like (and no surprise I didn't get the job - not that I would have accepted it), but it's remained on my CV to this day anyway. Small minded reactions are something I've learned to deal with over the years, and I wouldn't want to work for someone predisposed to those kinds of judgements anyway.

There were a couple of other more positive responses to it though from people who were genuinely curious. To my surprise I even managed to persuade one guy to take a look at it, and he actually ended up doing a few lessons from Kurso de Esperanto.

vejktoro (Mostrar o perfil) 29 de agosto de 2015 03:27:24

Tempodivalse: I suppose some non-Esperantists associate speaking Esperanto with certain political and cultural beliefs. They don't seem aware of the vast diversity among Esperantophones.
Most linguistic research relies only on L1 speakers and that from a community. Esperanto does not provide this; Swahili does. I have found places where Eo L1 speakers could ( I think )add to our understanding of the Minimalist program, but the argument is difficult, especially since the L1 data is still mostly in isolation. Collecting the data would be nearly impossible. It is difficult to recreate any experiment. The field of linguistics is highly academic and for most pursuits Eo just doesn't cut it. "Esperanto is not a real language." is a bit harsh. Maybe it would be better put, "Constructed languages have little to nothing to add to our current research."

None of this should worry an Esperantist and there is no point being sore about it as none of us are speaking Eo for the sake of Academia.. right?

Miland (Mostrar o perfil) 29 de agosto de 2015 15:32:22

It's on mv CV, but I don't remember anyone mentioning it in an interview.

Alkanadi (Mostrar o perfil) 30 de agosto de 2015 09:02:48

I would be scared to put it on my CV because I don't want to be judged.
there was one situation where they made a point of raising it, apparently feeling the need to examine me and find out whether I'm the sort of person who
We are all wage-slaves. Why do they interview us? We should interview them. There should be more jobs than people. There should NOT be more people than jobs. Why does the management have all the power. The management should be a stooge for the employees so that we can get our jobs done more efficiently.

We always support democracy in the political arena, yet we forget about it in the workplace. We need a democratic workplace.

MrMosier (Mostrar o perfil) 31 de agosto de 2015 12:32:48

Tempodivalse:Some years back I did take a class in linguistics where it came up in conversation that I spoke Esperanto - the instructor gave me a condescending smile, as if to say, "how naively cute".
I had a linguistics prof once who was a bit more hostile. He poo-poo-ed Esperanto when I listed it as one of my languages (in our "let's introduce ourselves" first day exercise) saying "REAL languages don't put the plural ending before the case endings!"

I told him I hoped he never said that to a Turk or a Georgian lest he get a fist in the face. I then picked up my backpack and started toward the door and he said "Where do you think you're going?" and I told him to the registrar's office to drop his class since I don't think any linguistics professor that didn't know such a basic thing about Turkish at least, had any business teaching in a university and I'd rather not waste my money.

Tempodivalse (Mostrar o perfil) 31 de agosto de 2015 13:47:18

Well, being a linguist doesn't mean you know a lot about any given language ... though I find it curious that he'd know about Esperanto's plural markers but not some other languages'.

I would have asked (before dropping the class) why he thought that was an important criterion for determining a "real" language. Seems rather an arbitrary put-down. I guess he was trying to be funny. Thanks for sharing the story, entertaining ridulo.gif

jdawdy (Mostrar o perfil) 31 de agosto de 2015 17:22:56

The look on his face must have been priceless.

MrMosier:
Tempodivalse:
I told him I hoped he never said that to a Turk or a Georgian lest he get a fist in the face. I then picked up my backpack and started toward the door and he said "Where do you think you're going?" and I told him to the registrar's office to drop his class since I don't think any linguistics professor that didn't know such a basic thing about Turkish at least, had any business teaching in a university and I'd rather not waste my money.

edwardcorner (Mostrar o perfil) 16 de janeiro de 2019 10:08:51

Three major differences between CVs and resumes are the length, the purpose and the layout. A resume is a brief summary of your skills and experience over one or two pages, a CV is more detailed and can stretch well beyond two pages. The resume will be tailored to each position whereas the CV will stay put and any changes will be in the cover letter. A CV has a clear chronological order listing the whole career of the individual whereas a resume’s information can be shuffled around to best suit the applicant.

Zam_franca (Mostrar o perfil) 23 de setembro de 2019 07:38:22

Tre interesa demando (I'll write in Esperanto, if you are a beginner, ask me and I'll translate). Sed :
- Ĉu estas sektoroj kie Esperanto estas pli bone konsiderata ?
- Ĉu en la lingva sektoro, aŭ en la lingvinstrua sektoro, diri ke oni parolas Esperanton 9pmalfaciligas nian ekvarbiĝon ?
- Ĉu en la scienca sektoro, la dungistoj malpli atentas pri aliaj lingvoj krome la angla ?
- Ĉu tiu kiu diras ke li parolas Esperanton estos konsiderata kiel naiva idealisto ?
- Kiel Esperanto povus esti, kio franclingvanoj nomigas "un plus" (unu pliaĵon) ? Ekzemple en la turisma sektoro, Esperanto povas iomete helpi (legu la finon de la intervjuo). Sed alisektore ?

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