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Tempodivalse (Покажи профила) 28 септември 2015, 14:36:34
Microsoft is so anglo-biased, they make it a pain to get anything other than vanilla English layout. I remember trying to get the Cyrillic layout customised in XP/Vista. Miserable - so glad I switched to Linux years ago ...
RiotNrrd (Покажи профила) 28 септември 2015, 15:33:24
Alkanadi (Покажи профила) 28 септември 2015, 15:34:39
Tempodivalse:On Linux you do not even have to switch keyboard layouts - there is an option (well, at least in KDE) of making circumflexes accessible via RightAlt+letter.Can you explain how? I tried to do this before but unsuccessfully.
Tempodivalse:Microsoft is so anglo-biased, they make it a pain to get anything other than vanilla English layout.Windows 8 is pretty good for other languages. However, MS Office requires you to purchase language packages if you want the interface to be in a different language.
I think Windows 10 will help windows get some of their lost customers back because you can sign in with your face.
Tempodivalse (Покажи профила) 28 септември 2015, 16:11:47
Can you explain how? I tried to do this before but unsuccessfully.On KDE, there should be a checkbox option in the Keyboard settings that says "Esperanto circumflexes" or similar (it might be under "Advanced" ). Make sure you've also enabled a third-level key - normally this is AltGr, also in Advanced settings IIRC. When I get back to my home computer I'll post a more exact description, if I don't forget.
What desktop environment do you use? I think LMDE and XFCE have something similar. GNOME seem to have "dumbed down" their keyboard settings in 3.0; I could more easily find the circumflex checkbox option in 2.x. (And don't get me started on Unity.)
Tempodivalse (Покажи профила) 28 септември 2015, 16:14:24
Windows 8 is pretty good for other languages. However, MS Office requires you to purchase language packages if you want the interface to be in a different language.Well, that's silly (though understandable since Microsoft want their consumers to pay lots of money). People complain about Linux distros and applications having less functionality than their Windows counterparts, but support for multiple languages is an area where Windows is still way behind the curve. My KDE can switch to Esperanto or Russian or a zillion other languages with just a few command line operations.
Alkanadi (Покажи профила) 29 септември 2015, 08:21:11
Tempodivalse:What desktop environment do you use? I think LMDE and XFCE have something similar. GNOME seem to have "dumbed down" their keyboard settings in 3.0; I couldn't find the circumflex checkbox option in 2.x. (And don't get me started on Unity.)I use Ubuntu. I think I am out of luck. I found this:
Ubuntu includes a very limited shortcut key configuration utility which doesn’t allow you to assign hotkeys to your own applications or scripts.You can do it if you play around with config files but that scares me a little.
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/assign-custo...
Vestitor (Покажи профила) 29 септември 2015, 10:15:56
You add the keyboard language to the languages list and switch between them using the 'windows' or 'super' key and the space bar. Since Q,W,X,Y are nt used in Esperanto they become Ŝ,Ĝ,Ĉ,Ŭ and the left square bracket key '[' becomes ĵ.
There's no need to fool about assigning hotkeys and the like.
Tempodivalse (Покажи профила) 29 септември 2015, 12:31:54
You add the keyboard language to the languages list and switch between them using the 'windows' or 'super' key and the space bar. Since Q,W,X,Y are nt used in Esperanto they become Ŝ,Ĝ,Ĉ,Ŭ and the left square bracket key '[' becomes ĵ./quote]How do you get Ĥ?
If you already have other non-Latin layouts enabled, then it might be less efficient to add Esperanto - hence my problem with Unity/GNOME3. More layouts to toggle through ... I sometimes enable 3 and it was already a bit of a hassle, esp. since I need to switch back and forth a lot.
Another alternative is to use US-International keyboard and use the compose key to insert the circumflexes, though this might involve an additional keystroke. (On KDE and GNOME2/MATE, you can use the US-International keyboard in combination with the Esperanto third-level circumflexes - best of both worlds on one keyboard, and I can still alt+shift to get Cyrillic).
Alkanadi (Покажи профила) 29 септември 2015, 15:04:58
Tempodivalse:How do you get Ĥ?The Ĥ is this key ]. I attached the layout.
The problem is that I always forget to switch the keyboard back to English when I am done typing Esperanto.
It is easy to switch though. I have it setup so I just click CTRL Shift to switch. It would be nice to have a hotkey though.
Vestitor (Покажи профила) 29 септември 2015, 15:23:54
I have to say that I'm astonished sometimes when people find it so cumbersome to e.g. press two fixed keys, rather than having one fixed key. The effort is negligible, it's nothing. There's always going to be some limit somewhere because it's impossible to have one keyboard layout to do everything.
The system on Ubuntu is so simple it shouldn't even generate a meaningful complaint.