Vestitor:The effort is negligible, it's nothing

Image you switch your keyboard. Then ŭou forget to sĝitch it back and everŭthing gets messed up. So ŭou constantlŭ have to hit the backspace button manŭ times, sĝitch the keŭboard, and fiĉ the errors.

It would be much better if I could just use a hotkey and never switch the keyboard. But, you are right. It is laziness.

My only complaint is that GNOME3/Unity have "dumbed down" the keyboard settings, making it harder to get the circumflexes. You now have to either enable a second layout, or else use US-International and use a two- or three-keystroke manoeuvre to get the appropriate letter. (Maybe this has changed in the most recent versions; I'll have to check out a copy of the latest Fedora or Ubuntu.)

I often use 3 layouts (Latin, Cyrillic, Greek) and it's non-ideal when you have to switch frequently. Having to have a special 4th layout for Esperanto (or 5th for Italian etc.) would really be intolerable.

Still, this is better than Windows, where you either have to use hacks like Tajpi and Ek, or memorise long numerical codes to use with your compose key to get the desired letter. I am really surprised at how Windows gets away with such poor multilingual support. I guess when you have a near-monopoly on the market, that's not a priority.

Alkanadi:Image you switch your keyboard. Then ŭou forget to sĝitch it back and everŭthing gets messed up.

I once spent a frustrating 10 minutes trying to work out why my linux machine wouldn't log me in. Putting the keyboard layout back to english did the trick

Alkanadi:

Vestitor:The effort is negligible, it's nothing

Image you switch your keyboard. Then ŭou forget to sĝitch it back and everŭthing gets messed up. So ŭou constantlŭ have to hit the backspace button manŭ times, sĝitch the keŭboard, and fiĉ the errors.

It would be much better if I could just use a hotkey and never switch the keyboard. But, you are right. It is laziness.

ŭou are right aboŭt that..! It's a real nuisance that makes it unsuitable for e.g. duolingo where you have to switch between eo/en between questions.

richardhall:

Alkanadi:Image you switch your keyboard. Then ŭou forget to sĝitch it back and everŭthing gets messed up.

I once spent a frustrating 10 minutes trying to work out why my linux machine wouldn't log me in. Putting the keyboard layout back to english did the trick

This happens to one of my users from time to time. The first time it happened, I was about to reset his password and then it dawned on my that maybe the keyboard is messed.

Now, when users can't log in, this is the first thing I check.

PS. This is a good way to make an super secure password: Have two keyboards installed. For example, Russian and English. Have your password in Russian and then use the Russian keyboard to log in. Afterwards, use the English keyboard as usual. Nobody will ever guess your password in a million years because it isn't in a language that you speak.

Vestitor:ŭou are right aboŭt that..! It's a real nuisance that makes it unsuitable for e.g. duolingo where you have to switch between eo/en between questions.

It is not as fun but Duolingo accepts the X method. Hope that helps

Alkanadi:

Vestitor:The effort is negligible, it's nothing

Image you switch your keyboard. ...

It would be much better if I could just use a hotkey and never switch the keyboard. But, you are right. It is laziness.

I myself do not have much occasion to type in Esperanto with the supersigned letters, but when I do I use Tajpi under Windows (7, currently). It is almost trivial to exit the program when I am finished, and a moment of typing when I have forgotten to do so will immediately alert me to exit Tajpi. Simple without difficulty. However, it could be that some individuals who do compose often in E-o might forget to exit whatever tool they are using.

bartlett22183:However, it could be that some individuals who do compose often in E-o might forget to exit whatever tool they are using.

Actually with Tajpi you wouldn't even need to exit the program, you can just enable and disable it as necessary by double clicking on the tray icon, or using the hotkey defined in the "klavkomando" section of the config.

For extreme paranoia, use the Shavian keyboard (Ŝava alfabeto) remapped to the UK English keyboard, set as your default startup keyboard. That one would give the NSA a headache

Alkanadi:

richardhall:

Alkanadi:Image you switch your keyboard. Then ŭou forget to sĝitch it back and everŭthing gets messed up.

I once spent a frustrating 10 minutes trying to work out why my linux machine wouldn't log me in. Putting the keyboard layout back to english did the trick

This happens to one of my users from time to time. The first time it happened, I was about to reset his password and then it dawned on my that maybe the keyboard is messed.

Now, when users can't log in, this is the first thing I check.

PS. This is a good way to make an super secure password: Have two keyboards installed. For example, Russian and English. Have your password in Russian and then use the Russian keyboard to log in. Afterwards, use the English keyboard as usual. Nobody will ever guess your password in a million years because it isn't in a language that you speak.