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4690 Professors on Linkedin speak Esperanto

de Alkanadi, 2015-novembro-04

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Alkanadi (Montri la profilon) 2015-novembro-04 09:21:09

Recently on the Evildea blog he stated that sometimes Esperantists have a stereotype of being elitists.

I did a google search:
site:linkedin.com professor esperanto

The results were:
About 4,690 results

This is a quick and dirty way to research something, but it still is interesting.

Do you think that Esperantists are among the elites of our society?

Miland (Montri la profilon) 2015-novembro-04 09:32:41

Alkanadi:Do you think that Esperantists are among the elites of our society?
To be honest, no. The language may have 'chic', good enough for a little amusement in conversation, but in my view that's about it.

Having said that, there was a time when Esperantists might have been associated with the more well-off classes - between the world wars, which may have been its heyday. Linguaphone made its only course in Esperanto around 1930, and the pictures in the accompanying book depict a middle-class life with servants.

erinja (Montri la profilon) 2015-novembro-04 12:23:19

Alkanadi:Recently on the Evildea blog he stated that sometimes Esperantists have a stereotype of being elitists.
A stereotype among who? I don't think that non-Esperanto speakers even know enough about Esperantists to have a stereotype.

If Evildea encounters people who believe this stereotype, it might have something to do with local conditions in Australia. In many places in Europe, you still have a traditional worker's movement that affiliates with Esperanto, and this is obvious when you go around Europe with Esperanto. There's nothing elitist about the International Association of Esperantist Railway Workers, I assure you.

Alkanadi (Montri la profilon) 2015-novembro-04 13:55:55

erinja:A stereotype among who?
Among polyglots.

But, I also heard from other sources that Esperantists are the most friendly people at these polyglot events. Of course, in addition to that, we are weirdest.

Vestitor (Montri la profilon) 2015-novembro-04 22:13:11

erinja:There's nothing elitist about the International Association of Esperantist Railway Workers, I assure you.
I have to admit I laughed when I read this, but not in a mocking way. I'm envisioning them discussing safety regulation breaches in Esperanto.

With regard to the OP's question I'd say there are two camps that roughly correlate with the finvenkist/raumist divide. The railway workers above would originally associate with the former, but there is a another group consisting of people learning Esperanto divorced from the view of it as a social movement. This likely includes some of the professors, the conlangers and language collectors, Esperanto-chic types and mad people. Some of this is typical first-world frivolity.

MrMosier (Montri la profilon) 2015-novembro-04 23:47:53

Alkanadi:Recently on the Evildea blog he stated that sometimes Esperantists have a stereotype of being elitists.

I did a google search:
site:linkedin.com professor esperanto

The results were:
About 4,690 results

This is a quick and dirty way to research something, but it still is interesting.

Do you think that Esperantists are among the elites of our society?
I don't think so, although some of them certainly think they are.

Tempodivalse (Montri la profilon) 2015-novembro-05 19:26:35

Most Esperantists are educated white-collar folks, presumably because only those kinds of people would have the free time on their hands to learn something of little to no practical value. I don't know if that makes them 'elite'.

RiotNrrd (Montri la profilon) 2015-novembro-05 19:53:42

Tempodivalse:Most Esperantists are educated white-collar folks, presumably because only those kinds of people would have the free time on their hands to learn something of little to no practical value. I don't know if that makes them 'elite'.
People who learn Esperanto don't really require oodles of free time, though. I learned it in ten minute blocks on smoke breaks (back when I smoked - last month was the six year anniversary of my going tobacco-free). While I have no hard evidence to support it, my own experience suggests 150 hours really is sufficient for those of European-language backgrounds. People put more effort than that into individual video games.

robbkvasnak (Montri la profilon) 2015-novembro-05 21:17:05

Uff, conlangers, they should study the foot work that Zamenhof preformed in the beginning by translating things into their conlang [the language of con-artists? hehehe] And if, indeed, 4690 professors speak Esperanto, that much more credit to our language. I know several people in our group who are not 'professionals' with white collars - about half of our local group, in fact. And today's 'white collar' workers probably have less time than 'blue-collar' or 'pink-collar' workers.
I really don't have the impression that Esperanto appeals to any one particular economic class, except maybe least of all to the rich, like George Soros, who doesn't have time for us due to all of his dough.

Christa627 (Montri la profilon) 2015-novembro-07 22:46:13

Alkanadi:
erinja:A stereotype among who?
Among polyglots.

But, I also heard from other sources that Esperantists are the most friendly people at these polyglot events. Of course, in addition to that, we are weirdest.
Haha, awesome! ridego.gif

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