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Alkanadi (User's profile) May 12, 2016, 7:31:21 AM
"...the Academy of Esperanto, is an independent body of language scholars who steward the evolution of the language..."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akademio_de_Esperant...
Is this statement accurate? Is there an organisation that regulates the Esperanto language?
Kirilo81 (User's profile) May 12, 2016, 7:40:37 AM
Alkanadi (User's profile) May 12, 2016, 7:53:36 AM
Kirilo81:Yes, in theory the Akademio. In practice its recommendations are not always followed...Where does PMEG fall into this?
lagtendisto (User's profile) May 12, 2016, 6:54:32 PM
Alkanadi:Where does PMEG fall into this?PMEG is best practice manual compiled according observed conservation styles at several E-o events.
Kirilo81 (User's profile) May 12, 2016, 8:25:50 PM
Pace spreecamper PMEG is based mainly on written sources*, often from Zamenhof, but also all newer tendencies are considered.
*There is no voice corpus of Esperanto. I have 130+ hours of recordings for our university project, but we would need like 10 full time positions for at least one year in order to transcribe everything...
lagtendisto (User's profile) May 13, 2016, 4:38:03 PM
erinja (User's profile) May 13, 2016, 7:25:10 PM
spreecamper:It would be big surprize for me to hear that Bertilo wouldn't have any motivation to get feedback from learners about level of PMEG's usefullness for them. That best works at spoken face-to-face communication. I.e. see NASK 2016 details.I don't understand what you mean. Bertilo is active online, he answers grammar questions all the time on Facebook, not just in face-to-face communication. He has a lot of contact with Esperanto speakers from beginner to advanced levels. He has sometimes edited parts of the PMEG based on these conversations.
mkj1887 (User's profile) May 13, 2016, 8:44:12 PM
Kirilo81:PMEG (as also PAG - if you don't know it don't try to search it, it isn't worth the effort) is in no way "official", but it is written by an Academy member and in nearly all details conforms with the Fundamento and the Academy decisions. I highly recommend it.Esperanto-USA has a fairly extensive voice corpus, created expressly for the purpose of being a voice corpus for posterity. It was, if memory serves, created around the year 2000. It consisted of weekly conference telephone calls, that were recorded, among two or more Esperantists, on various topics. My father (R. Kent Jones) was a participant, and, I think, the coordinator of the effort. I don’t recall how many sessions were recorded, but I think it would be fair to call it a nontrivial quantity.
Pace spreecamper PMEG is based mainly on written sources*, often from Zamenhof, but also all newer tendencies are considered.
*There is no voice corpus of Esperanto. I have 130+ hours of recordings for our university project, but we would need like 10 full time positions for at least one year in order to transcribe everything...
lagtendisto (User's profile) May 15, 2016, 10:22:25 AM
erinja:He has sometimes edited parts of the PMEG based on these conversations.That I tried to point to. Sorry about, that I didn't find coherent phrases. If I got it right, Zamenhof did same ('best practice fine-tuning'?) during he developed Esperanto language.
Kirilo81 (User's profile) May 16, 2016, 12:40:42 PM
mkj1887:Esperanto-USA has a fairly extensive voice corpus, created expressly for the purpose of being a voice corpus for posterity.This is interesting, I didn't know that. Could you please point to the exact URL, I couldn't find it on the pages.