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語言: English
Alkanadi (顯示個人資料) 2016年5月26日下午2:48:24
Does this mean that I discovered he was a thief, or does it mean that I found a thief for him to hire?
Mi trovis lin ŝtelisto
How would you say:
- I found the dog a bone.
- I found him a wife.
- I found the car a shop.
erinja (顯示個人資料) 2016年5月26日下午3:38:06
Mi trovis por la auxto riparejon.
Your sentence about the thief has omitted the word "esti", but it can be understood through context. This is sometimes done, although it diminishes clarity of meaning, so you should include the "esti" if you want to be completely clear - "mi trovis lin esti sxtelisto".
Vestitor (顯示個人資料) 2016年5月26日下午4:05:41
I found him (to be) a thief.
Until I saw Erinja's translation of the last sentence I couldn't even work out what it was supposed to mean. A 'shop' is a 'workshop' is AE I gather?
erinja (顯示個人資料) 2016年5月26日下午4:43:43
Vestitor:The sentence should be easy to fathom because the same element 'to be' (or esti as it is here) is routinely dropped in English in everyday speech and sometimes in writing.I took it to mean a workshop for auto repairs. In the US, it's common to say "my car's in the shop" if the car is undergoing repairs. The term AE is not used here (or at least, I've never heard it).
I found him (to be) a thief.
Until I saw Erinja's translation of the last sentence I couldn't even work out what it was supposed to mean. A 'shop' is a 'workshop' is AE I gather?
Vestitor (顯示個人資料) 2016年5月26日下午5:21:23
I have heard the word 'shop' meaning workshop and also referring to something like: what you are doing when you are involved in some sort of craft or manual skill. I got this from a book called: Shop Class as Soulcraft: An Inquiry into the Value of Work. A great book I'd recommend to anyone who hasn't read it.
At first it didn't compute when I read the sentence above because it's not standard in the UK.
erinja (顯示個人資料) 2016年5月26日下午6:06:41
...then I googled AE and found that it stands for "auto electrical" or "auto electrics" and thought, ah, that must be an alternate British term for a car repair facility.
