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de IreneSimos, 13 juin 2016

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IreneSimos (Voir le profil) 13 juin 2016 19:58:53

Hello, I'm a sudent who would like your help.
Here in Italy to complete our high school "career" we have to take one big final exam and present orally a subject of our liking. I chose to make my presentation on Esperanto because I deeply admire what it stands for. There's a problem though, I should be able to link it to a science (Maths, Science, Physics and Technology (IT)) but the only connection I can think of is how the brain learns a new language.
I was wondering if you could help think of any other connection between Esperanto and Sciences?
Thank you for your time.
I.S.

Mustelvulpo (Voir le profil) 13 juin 2016 20:23:58

Esperanto has a long history of connection to the sciences. Look up the websites for Scienca Revuo and Akademio Internacia de la Sciencoj. I think that will get you headed in the right direction and lead you to more links.

noelekim (Voir le profil) 14 juin 2016 00:26:27

IreneSimos:
I was wondering if you could help think of any other connection between Esperanto and Sciences?
Thank you for your time.
I.S.
Also worth exploring:

scholar.google.com Search for 'esperanto'

katalogo.uea.org Kategorio: scienco kaj tekniko

Akademio Internacia de la Sciencoj (AIS) San-Marino
www.ais-sanmarino.org

Balbutanto (Voir le profil) 14 juin 2016 01:53:13

What about communications in science? Today, knowing English is considered imperative for those who study or practice science. Esperanto is both neutral and easier to learn -- what could be its contribution to the sharing of scientific knowledge?

To give credit where credit is due, the following idea came from my wife. Building an artificial language, like Zamenhof did, can be seen as a scientific endeavour. One has to use logic, systematize, make choices. Have a look at the late Umberto Eco's La ricerca della lingua perfetta nella cultura europea. An interesting read.

There's also a link with linguistics, the scientific study of languages.

Good luck!

Miland (Voir le profil) 14 juin 2016 07:17:02

IreneSimos:..I was wondering if you could help think of any other connection between Esperanto and Sciences?
You might try contacting Federazione Esperantista Italiana.

The UEA catalogue lists a nice book contains dialogues on science which may be useful, but it's in Esperanto.

thyrolf (Voir le profil) 14 juin 2016 08:07:20

The most profund link to science literature in Esperanto is:

http://www.eventoj.hu/steb/

but it is IN Esperanto. Don't know, if You can use it

Alkanadi (Voir le profil) 14 juin 2016 08:29:51

IreneSimos:...I should be able to link it to a science (Maths, Science, Physics and Technology (IT))...
You could compare human languages, constructed languages and programming languages. What is similar between them? What is different?

Have a look at, syntax, pragmatics, phonology, morphology, semantics, translation and interpretation.

Some interesting questions:
- Does Esperanto have algorithmic statements, such as "if", "while", "init", "break", ect...
- Why can't computers understand the connotation of words?
- Could Esperanto be a more useful tool for machine translation?
- How does technology adapt to accommodate languages such as Esperanto? example: Keyboard input.

Alkanadi (Voir le profil) 14 juin 2016 08:36:18

I have a nice topic idea for you. For the report you could show how math and technology can be used to break secret codes.

Then show how this can be applied to understanding a foreign language like Esperanto.

If someone had a piece of paper with Esperanto text, can you use math to break the code?

sudanglo (Voir le profil) 16 juin 2016 16:49:15

Machine translation. Argue the following.

Esperanto has proved to be well suited with its extreme regularity and grammatical flexibility to machine translation compared to national languages. It is the ideal interlanguage

Without an interlanguage, to develop machine translation to handle 3 languages you will need to work on

A to B
A to C
B to A
B to C
C to A
C to B

For n languages the formula becomes n * (n-1). This gets to be a large number as n grows.

Using an interlanguage for 3 languages the project becomes

A to I, B to I, C to I and I to A, I to B, I to C,

The advantage is not apparent.

But for n languages the formula is 2 * n and this grows slowly as n increases.

If n is 10, one approach gives 10 * 9 = 90 development projects
The other approach gives 2 * 10 = 20 development projects - quite a saving.

There are 22 or so official languages in the EU. I leave it to you work out the difference.

Koracio (Voir le profil) 6 août 2016 10:05:06

Is machine translation from and to Espernato fine?

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