Cause of eternal beginners
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Vestitor (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 7 Gitugutu 2016 15:09:35
Matt3223 (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 7 Gitugutu 2016 17:59:48
I think I am at the point where I need to spend more time on lernu! try out the new course and work with materials in the Media Library. But at first I am actually writing them out as I go through... because even the new course it is easy to peak and just move on thinking I have it down, but don't really.
I would like to start interacting here in the forums, facebook, youtube, etc in Esperanto, but I just don't feel I have a good enough feel for the grammer, and I don't trust google translate... I am sure it is good enough so others can figure out what I am trying to say, but I don't want to learn incorrectly.
Thanks for the Paralela Universo link erinja! That sounds very interesting.
As for my area... Springfield, MO I don't believe there is much going on, but I've been thinking about throwing up a MeetUp but feel I am not quite ready yet.
As for going to an actual sanctioned event... I am still too intimidated for that... the feeling of there being an expectation of the need to be able to converse comfortably scares me from those... even if that expectation isn't real... it just feels like it is.
Anyhow, I guess I agree that the onus is on the learner to put in the time... the modern tools make it easy to dabble... and dabbling results in eternal beginners... kind of in a weird way... the older, less accessible, training methods probably had higher percentages of people moving up, because of the high bar to even become a beginner... dabblers (kind of like me, but I am fighting it) would still clear and not even start.
I am not sure eternal beginners are bad though... if a couple hundred people in my town became eternal beginners, at least they would know what Esperanto is and be around to interact with, even if just at a beginner level...
Vestitor (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 7 Gitugutu 2016 18:37:26
There is no way on earth a person jumps from rock-bottom beginner to any level of proficiency in a single leap. It's also not a matter of preparing in private for that moment when everything goes public and you start interacting. A learning-while-doing approach is necessary, because they feed each other.
Matt3223 (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 7 Gitugutu 2016 18:53:07
Like for Missouri... could be a main "esperanto-us" group with state level sub-groups like"esperanto-mo-us" that are completely open to beginners, and then if there are sufficient number of folks apply for things like "esperanto-southwest-mo-us", "esperanto-stlouis-mo-us", and "esperanto-kc-mo-us" underneath the state levels...
Basically a sort of official community body sets up country level groups and then subsections as necessary per requests or needs... using forum sections, g+, FB, Twitter, IRC, diaspora, etc.
If anything analagous exists... point me in that direction!
[edit] nevermind all that... simple FB and G+ pages would be more simple... closest to me is FB Esperanto Kansas City... i'll join up.
lagtendisto (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 8 Gitugutu 2016 22:48:18
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Gatton (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 28 Nzero 2017 13:30:55
mkj1887 (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 28 Nzero 2017 19:03:39
Alkanadi:Why do some people get stuck as eternal beginners?In pursing the answer to your question, I think the following joke should be borne in mind:
An old man, with a violin case on his lap, is sitting at a bus stop in New York city and a young man comes up to him and says, “Sir, can you tell me how to get to Carnegie Hall?” The old man looks up at him and says, “Practice, practice, practice!”
mkj1887 (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 28 Nzero 2017 19:07:22