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Is it okay to emphasize pronouns?

Zvoc47-ისა და 22 ივნისი, 2016-ის მიერ

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Zvoc47 (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 22 ივნისი, 2016 00:54:06

"Mi pensis ke MI estas plej dormema."

Is this okay like in English "I thought that I was most sleepy."?

rann (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 22 ივნისი, 2016 02:36:04

You could change the word order which then gives emphasis to a part of a phrase.

In your case you would say "Mi pensas, ke estas plej dormema mi" to emphasize "I".

Link to emphasis in Esperanto:

https://adventuresinesperanto.wordpress.com/2012/1...

Alkanadi (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 22 ივნისი, 2016 07:50:26

Zvoc47:"Mi pensis ke MI estas plej dormema."

Is this okay like in English "I thought that I was most sleepy."?
I think that is correct but don't you need the definite article?

Mi pensis ke mi estas la plej dormema.

I thought that I was the most sleepy.

Zvoc47 (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 22 ივნისი, 2016 13:08:22

rann:You could change the word order which then gives emphasis to a part of a phrase.

In your case you would say "Mi pensas, ke estas plej dormema mi" to emphasize "I".

Link to emphasis in Esperanto:

https://adventuresinesperanto.wordpress.com/2012/1...
How will the hearer know that "mi" is the assignee in the estas assignment and not the assigner part / predicative thing? To me, this sounds like "=plej dormema mi" while nothing is on the left side of the assignment. In my conlang, I had the idea to have nominative and predicative declension so that you cannot say "besto estas kato" because not all animals are cats. I'd like more explanation how this is solved in Esperanto. I want exactness/explicitness/redundancy!

Luib (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 22 ივნისი, 2016 14:00:29

Zvoc47:
rann:You could change the word order which then gives emphasis to a part of a phrase.

In your case you would say "Mi pensas, ke estas plej dormema mi" to emphasize "I".

Link to emphasis in Esperanto:

https://adventuresinesperanto.wordpress.com/2012/1...
How will the hearer know that "mi" is the assignee in the estas assignment and not the assigner part / predicative thing? To me, this sounds like "=plej dormema mi" while nothing is on the left side of the assignment. In my conlang, I had the idea to have nominative and predicative declension so that you cannot say "besto estas kato" because not all animals are cats. I'd like more explanation how this is solved in Esperanto. I want exactness/explicitness/redundancy!
In this case you can say: Plej dormemas mi. But it is not always possible to make a verb out of an adjective (and hardly ever out of a noun)

sudanglo (მომხმარებლის პროფილი) 23 ივნისი, 2016 11:50:37

The question raised is whether it is legitimate to emphasize with voice alone, or should this be done syntactically.

There is a binary classification used by linguists, distinguishing between stress-timed and syllable-timed languages.

English is stress-timed - it uses short and long syllables; French is syllable-timed - its syllables are much the same length.

Esperanto presumably would be classified as stress-timed rather than syllable-timed, and therefore, I suppose, any component in a sentence could be emphasized with voice alone.

But in practice it might be that Esperantists prefer syntactical devices for emphasis, feeling that this would be internationally more comprehensible.

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