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A couple quick questions

kelle poolt marianas, 20. märts 2008

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marianas (Näita profiili) 20. märts 2008 4:10.51

1) What does k.t.p. stand for? I know it means etc., but what do the individual letters stand for? I'm presuming the first is kaj.

2) How do you say "sorry"? I haven't been able to figure that one out. I'm pretty sure Esperantists have to apologise like regular people...

3) Radio & television: are there internet radio stations/podcasts in E-o? Where? Are they any good?

Dankon!
-Mari

Taciturn_ (Näita profiili) 20. märts 2008 4:26.04

1) k.t.p. = kaj tiel pli

2)sorry = pardonu min,bonvolu pardoni min.

erinja (Näita profiili) 20. märts 2008 10:44.02

ktp is actually kaj tiel plU

And for I'm sorry, although "pardonu min" is correct, most people say simply "pardonu" and leave off the part about "min"

Another form is "mi bedaŭras" (in that case, you do include the "mi" part)

bedaŭri is usually the translation you find when you look up "sorry" in the dictionary, and translates as "to regret" or "to be sorry about"

Normally you would say "pardonu" if you are sorry because you did something bad. You would normally say "mi bedaŭras" if something bad happens that is beyond your control, and not your fault. You could also use "mi bedaŭras" for something that is your fault, but you wouldn't normally use "pardonu" for something that isn't your fault.

So if you step on someone's toe, that's usually "Pardonu", though "Mi bedaŭras" is ok as well.

If someone tells you that their aunt just died and you're sorry to hear that, you say "Mi bedaŭras" (obviously it is not your fault that she died, unless it *is* your fault because you killed her, in which case you might want to say "Pardonu!")

Re: podcasts, "Radio Verda" is a popular podcast . But here are some links:

The Esperanto Wikipedia page for podcast ("podkasto"), which has links to Esperanto podcasts at the bottom:
http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podkasto

These two links are useful for Esperanto radio:
http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto-radio
http://www.radioarkivo.org/

awake (Näita profiili) 20. märts 2008 10:47.25

marianas:1) What does k.t.p. stand for? I know it means etc., but what do the individual letters stand for? I'm presuming the first is kaj.

2) How do you say "sorry"? I haven't been able to figure that one out. I'm pretty sure Esperantists have to apologise like regular people...

3) Radio & television: are there internet radio stations/podcasts in E-o? Where? Are they any good?

Dankon!
-Mari
1) kaj tiel plu which literally translates as "And thus (in that way) further"

2) pardonu min translates roughly as the english "I beg your pardon" or "Pardon me" To express regret, you can use bedaŭri as in

Mi bedaŭras, ke mi forgesis alporti vian ĉemizon = I'm sorry (I regret) that I forgot to bring your shirt.

or, Mi bedaŭregas, ke via patrino mortis = I'm very very sorry that your mother died.

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3) Probably the most popular posdcast is Radio verda, but there are others.

Radio polonia http://www.polskieradio.pl/eo/ is also a good resource from poland

311005901 (Näita profiili) 8. juuli 2008 3:46.33

Are there any Esperanto podcasts that are in lesson format?

Most of the ones that I've checked out are like a newscast.

erinja (Näita profiili) 8. juuli 2008 15:46.45

311005901:Are there any Esperanto podcasts that are in lesson format?

Most of the ones that I've checked out are like a newscast.
I haven't seen anything like that, but you can download audio versions of some "Mi estas komencanto" lessons here at lernu, if you want some kind of audio learning that you can carry with you.

Erin

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