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The pronunciation of d/t g/k b/p

od uživatele Swafim ze dne 29. dubna 2017

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Swafim (Ukázat profil) 29. dubna 2017 7:38:37

在世界语中,p,k,t不像普通话或英语中是送气音。我总是听不出这些音与b,g,d的区别,请问谁有一些好办法解决这个问题(O_O)?

In Esperanto, p,k,t are unaspirated sounds,which is not same to English.I can't distinguish between pkt and bgd in pronunciation.Does anyone have a good way to solve it?
And,does anybody have the same problem as mine?

Roch (Ukázat profil) 29. dubna 2017 22:15:32

Oh my, are you looking at this page, by any chance?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin

It's really confusing. malgajo.gif


p [pʰ] pay strongly aspirated p, as in pit
k [kʰ] kay strongly aspirated k, as in kill
t [tʰ] take strongly aspirated t, as in top

b [p] spit unaspirated p, as in spit
g [k] skill unaspirated k, as in skill
d [t] stop unaspirated t, as in stop

Swafim (Ukázat profil) 30. dubna 2017 12:02:29

Roch:Oh my, are you looking at this page, by any chance?
Thank you a lot . I've got it --- probably╮(╯▽╰)╭
So that means in chinese there're no such sounds like [d] [g] in IPA , right?
But I still can't distinguish them when listen to the records provided by lernu.net (-_-)!!

david_uk (Ukázat profil) 8. května 2017 12:57:49

In Esperanto, p,k,t are unaspirated sounds,which is not same to English.I can't distinguish between pkt and bgd in pronunciation.
Hello Swafim,

I am a native English speaker, and I have no trouble distinguishing those letters listening to the records on Lernu. To me the letters sound exactly the same as English.

I think you are having difficulties because your native language is Chinese. So you might get a better hints from other Chinese people who speak English (or French, German, Spanish, Esperanto....).

The best advice is probably just to keep trying. Keep learning Esperano and listening to Esperanto speakers. Eventually you should become able to tell the difference. And if you can't always hear the difference, you can probably learn to guess the correct word from the context.

MiMalamasLaAnglan (Ukázat profil) 14. května 2017 0:38:04

I think this should be in the About Other Languages forum, not the Questions forum if you're talking about Chinese. I can't tell if you're talking about Esperanto or Chinese, so this discussion might be in the right place.

Swafim (Ukázat profil) 14. května 2017 11:58:42

david_uk:
I think you are having difficulties because your native language is Chinese. So you might get a better hints from other Chinese people who speak English (or French, German, Spanish, Esperanto....).

The best advice is probably just to keep trying. Keep learning Esperano and listening to Esperanto speakers. Eventually you should become able to tell the difference. And if you can't always hear the difference, you can probably learn to guess the correct word from the context.
Hello, david_uk,

Thank you a lot for your advice.
I'll try to use your method.


MiMalamasLaAnglan:
I can't tell if you're talking about Esperanto or Chinese
Hello,MiMalamasLaAnglan,

Yes,we're talking about Esperanto,but use Chinese as an example.

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