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jimk2000 (プロフィールを表示) 2008年8月17日 17:35:25
jimk2000 (プロフィールを表示) 2008年8月17日 21:43:45
Miland:Having dipped quickly into lesson 1, I would say that Bridgewater's pronunciation is all right. But you also have very good models in the courses on this website.Thanks for the info. I have problems accessing audio on this web site and looking for other alternatives.
eb.eric (プロフィールを表示) 2008年8月17日 21:56:39
PS. If you can't roll your Rs, you're not alone. If you can, I envy you.
jimk2000 (プロフィールを表示) 2008年8月17日 22:16:00
eb.eric:His accent is good, but remember that Esperanto tolerates quite a wide range of pronunciations, and people of different backgrounds will pronounce words differently, especially with respect to vowels.I guess I am lucky because I have always been very good at rolling my r's.
PS. If you can't roll your Rs, you're not alone. If you can, I envy you.
awake (プロフィールを表示) 2008年8月18日 0:22:23
eb.eric:His accent is good, but remember that Esperanto tolerates quite a wide range of pronunciations, and people of different backgrounds will pronounce words differently, especially with respect to vowels.You can learn to do it, it just takes dedication and a lot of practice. I spent many months with no progress, practicing, or trying to practice, probably 10-15 minutes per day. I would get incredibly frustrated and give up the practice all together, then start it up again some weeks later.
PS. If you can't roll your Rs, you're not alone. If you can, I envy you.
I began to believe that it was impossible for me. Then I read a post on the internet about it (sort of). The post was about a girl who had a rr (full trill) sound in her name, but couldn't make the sound until she was like 7 or 8 years old. Apart from thinking, wow, cruel parents *grin*, I had a thought that I COULD learn it, it would just take years. Once I stopped trying to get it right TODAY, I just practiced and relaxed, resolved to the fact that I would get it but that it would take along time. I succeeded the first time a few weeks after that.
Of course, once you can make the sound, you have to put it into actual words (with different combinations of sounds before and after the rr sound).
Anyway, my point is that if you want to be able to do it, don't give up! just keep practicing and realize that it will take awhile to get.
Incidentally, Esperanto doesn't require the use of a fully trilled (rolled) r sound. The official sound is an Alveolar tap, (like the spanish r, not the spanish rr sound). But for those who have difficulty making the spanish r sound, the french or english r sounds are also acceptable (as is the fully trilled rr sound if you want t show off
. Miland (プロフィールを表示) 2008年8月18日 9:56:36
jimk2000: I have problems accessing audio on this web site and looking for other alternatives.That raises a good question. Would it be feasible to put the downloadable materials from the website on a CD available from the online store?
erinja (プロフィールを表示) 2008年8月23日 19:31:51
Miland:That raises a good question. Would it be feasible to put the downloadable materials from the website on a CD available from the online store?A CD version of this site is available from the UEA's book service. However, be advised that it's an older version of the site, and some things have changed somewhat.
Nicholas (プロフィールを表示) 2009年8月28日 22:01:03
jimk2000:I am very new to "Esperanto". I found an audio version of Helen Fryer's "The Esperanto Teacher" at www.librivox.org. It is narrated by several individuals but mostly by James Bridgewater whom I am not familiar with. My question is could some more experienced speakers go this is web site and listen to some of the audio and let me know if Mr. Bridgewater is providing a good pronunciation and accent of Esperanto.It's Nicholas James Bridgewater actually. That's me. I'm not a well-known Esperantist of any sort and have only been to one Universala Kongreso so far.
BTW, thanks Miland. I'd like to think my accent is quite good.
We REALLY need more Esperantists on Librivox and YOU and any one else can volunteer to record Esperanto books. Please volunteer and help out.
Nicholas J. Bridgewater