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di fldav76, 07 ottobre 2008

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fldav76 (Mostra il profilo) 07 ottobre 2008 21:47:16

Hi, I'm brand new to Esperanto and I've been looking over the various resources available.

I downloaded the Kuro de esperanto 3...and i signed up for the email "free esperanto course".

i'm looking for a book that starts out in english, and then gradually adds in esperanto, till at the end it's all esperanto. does such a book exist?

i realize the technical difficulty of creating such a book, but it would be the most natural way (for me) to learn.

what methods have you found most effective?

has anyone created a comparison sheet that details how other languages differ from esperanto. preferably in a somewhat graphical format.

like
esta estis estos
is was will be
[that didn't work with the formatting]
etc?

thanks...
Peace

jimk2000 (Mostra il profilo) 08 ottobre 2008 01:22:06

fldav76:
i'm looking for a book that starts out in english, and then gradually adds in esperanto, till at the end it's all esperanto. does such a book exist?
I also am fairly new to Esperanto. I found David Richardson's "Esperanto" book to be well formatted. He gives you some historical background, a course in learning the language and then there is a reader with articles, poems, letters etc all in Esperanto. You can get it from most booksellers and the Esperanto USA web site.

RiotNrrd (Mostra il profilo) 08 ottobre 2008 03:16:28

I remember back in elementary school (6th grade, to be precise) I came across a book that was exactly what you described, but was for French rather than Esperanto. I do not remember its name, but it was a story of some British kid who went to France in the very early years of the twentieth century and had some adventures (with those newfangled "aeroplane" things, if I recall correctly). He had to learn French while he was there, of course, so during each chapter more and more of the language was introduced into the story until the final chapter of the book was entirely in French.

It actually was a pretty good method of learning (written) French, and I didn't really have any trouble reading the final chapter. Although none of it stuck. At all.

So, sorry I don't know of any for Esperanto. But it's a pretty good idea.

Miland (Mostra il profilo) 08 ottobre 2008 09:51:39

fldav76: i'm looking for a book that gradually adds in esperanto..
You will probably not find books that mix English and Esperanto in the way you suggest, but learning resources that use a graded approach to vocabulary are certainly available. Here are some examples:

1. The courses on this website, so I would carefully work through some of them like Ana Pana followed by Ana Renkontas.

2. Audrey Childs-Mee's Saluton! uses the direct method, in which English is not necessary.

3. Claude Piron's Gerda Malaperis! (which also forms the basis of a course on this website), and after that, his Vere aŭ Fantazie? - both these books follow the same graded approach to vocabulary.

WJason (Mostra il profilo) 08 ottobre 2008 16:34:06

I'm a newbie too and just wanted to share some experience:

I've been using a few books. My favorite is the original "Teach Yourself Esperanto" by John Hartley and John Cresswell (copyright 1959). It was a bit expensive being a vintage and out-of-print book, but it's a great resource in that its approach is fairly simple.

I have Richard Davidson's book "Esperanto Learning and Using the International Language" although I haven't looked at it much.

I'm currently working through "Gerda Malaperis" with its simple and repetitive approach. I like it so far. I've also loaded the audio for this book onto my mp3 player, but haven't had a chance to listen yet.

My trouble has been that many words are close in spelling (pri & pli, ankaux & antaux, and all those who, what, where and why words) and so I'm constantly flipping to a glossary to confirm the meaning. I've made flash cards for myself which is helping (I couldn't find physical cards anywhere -- I had to make my own). It also helps to just read through the Esperanto, picking up what I can, and saving the glossary checks for afterward.

For putting minimal effort into learning I'm not doing too badly. I'm sure I'm further along than I would be having put the same effort into, say, Spanish.

With a bit more confidence, I'd like to attend a local Esperanto meeting.

Let's hang in there newbies; we can learn this! rideto.gif

Jason

ailebol (Mostra il profilo) 08 ottobre 2008 17:17:08

Saluton fldav76:

I have really enjoyed learning the language using Lernu's “La Puzlo Esperanto, Ana Pana, and Ana Renkontas”. I think that these courses give a good introduction to Esperanto.
How have you made out getting a lingvohelpanto (language helper) for "FEC"?
I think that if you give a few more days one of the many will contact you. I have been helped a lot using them.
I am really not qualified to help but if no one contacts you, I have all my notes (mistakes & corrections) from when I took the course and I am willing to compare your lessons with mine. - Let me know!

Gxis baldaux,
Joe

WJason (Mostra il profilo) 08 ottobre 2008 17:49:38

Thanks Joe!

I started FEC a while ago and then got busy and couldn't finish. I do computer support for a living so I don't like to sit in front of a computer at home. [Thus the physical flash cards and not the myriad ones on-line.] I prefer books and recordings. I might buy the Pasporto course on DVD from Esperanto USA.

I've been at this for about a year (with as I mentioned minimal effort so I'm only blaming myself) and still the simplest sentences confuse me. demando.gif

It's an interesting passtime for me though.

gxis la,

Jason

fldav76 (Mostra il profilo) 08 ottobre 2008 20:56:43

Thank you all for the responses, I'll check them all out. ridulo.gif

@riotnrrd: that book you describe sounds precisely like what i'm looking for. i' going to try to hut it down. (i'd like to end up knowing spanish and french also, so i could just store it till i was ready) do you have any more details about that book? dates, author, more storyline? etc?

does anyone know of a book like that for spanish?

I've downloaded the Gerda Malaperis!..and i like it so far. it's close to what i was looking for.

@ ailebol: I haven't heard back yet for my FEC tutor...i'm going to go through their suggested resignup procedure. if that doesn't work i may well take you up on your offer, thanksridulo.gif

about tutors, how do you get one for the kurso de esperanto? they have a link, but it only takes me to this one guy's page. i like the idea of using the program, it's fast and simple. plus it tells you when you screw up.

i'll probably end up finish both, just to speed things up. i'm already quite good at reading eperanto, although my vocab is very small.

thanks again for your interest everybody.
David

RiotNrrd (Mostra il profilo) 09 ottobre 2008 01:07:55

fldav76:@riotnrrd: that book you describe sounds precisely like what i'm looking for.
spenser, a member of this forum, wrote me that he actually has a copy of that book - it is called "The Avion My Uncle Flew", by Cyrus Fisher. I hadn't even thought about that book in probably 30 years and had no idea what the title, or even who the author, was. But the title tells me that it's the same book, as I remember the story did involve an uncle, along with airplanes.

The internet is a wonderful thing!

fldav76 (Mostra il profilo) 09 ottobre 2008 03:15:21

RiotNrrd:... it is called "The Avion My Uncle Flew", by Cyrus Fisher.
wow, i am astonished. my thanks to spenser and you both.

The internet is indeed a wonderful thing!

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