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Abii (Montri la profilon) 2009-majo-13 00:32:22
Vilinilo (Montri la profilon) 2009-majo-13 02:23:16
Senegaùlo:La lingua internasional futur esiste. El es nomeda Elefen (Lingua Franca Nova)...Too European for my taste. Even more than Esperanto. I must aknowledge it's simpler and its phonology is quite better than Esperanto's, but I still doubt LFN will make it through, Esperanto has got a relatively large community, a great amount of translated and original works, it's well known internationally and so on, but even though it's not even remotely close of accomplishing its final goal. Why would LFN have more success?
Sadly I think if Esperanto can't make it as an IAL, probably no language can. Mainly because it's not a merely linguistic question, it's about economy and politics. It's because of the accusative that the UN or the G20 have not elected Esperanto as the global language.
jan aleksan (Montri la profilon) 2009-majo-13 07:52:50
Abii:I dunno if it's been said, but the youth in a way are already making an "international" language. A lot of internet speak could be considered on its way to be a language, I mean most adults couldn't "translate" QQ more nub, l2p or gtfo my intrnts, and the popular phrases like lol seem to be used in internet slang other than English. I think that with the internet, at least in some form a kind of "meme-speak" will become a sort of axillary language.Not sure if it's international, except "lol" and "OMG", there are hardly understood by non native-english speakers. It's more a simplified english. The same thing exists for french.
ceigered (Montri la profilon) 2009-majo-13 12:19:31
Vilinilo:Sadly I think if Esperanto can't make it as an IAL, probably no language can. Mainly because it's not a merely linguistic question, it's about economy and politics. It's because of the accusative that the UN or the G20 have not elected Esperanto as the global language.I have to disagree - Esperanto has got a lot out of it's favour, sadly, as it was created early on compared to the fairly recent in history globalisation period which is primarily thanks to the Internet, so if Esperanto couldn't make it then it still wouldn't surprise me if another language could.
However you are fairly right-on about the politics side of things. Any world language probably needs the backing of a big group like the English speaking nations, the European Union, or the Chinese, for example. But quite frankly, they'd all rather push their own languages. Which probably won't work too well (Japan, who have the second largest economy after the US, have been trying to make Japanese as important as English in the world scene for ages, but I barely know anyone who speaks fluent Japanese so I guess they haven't been successful - then again I do think there is an insane amount of Japanese words entering English pop culture at the moment which shows some success, but I haven't found a daily application for the words 'samurai bentou karaoke sepukku kamikaze nihongo katana' yet)
RiotNrrd (Montri la profilon) 2009-majo-15 19:20:03
Arguing and censorship are not the same thing. But if your posts have been getting deleted... that is certainly not acceptable.
eikored85 (Montri la profilon) 2009-majo-15 23:09:26
jan aleksan:Heck, I'm a native English speaker and I don't know what "QQ more nub, l2p or gtfo my intrnts" means, even though I'm only 24!Abii:I dunno if it's been said, but the youth in a way are already making an "international" language. A lot of internet speak could be considered on its way to be a language, I mean most adults couldn't "translate" QQ more nub, l2p or gtfo my intrnts, and the popular phrases like lol seem to be used in internet slang other than English. I think that with the internet, at least in some form a kind of "meme-speak" will become a sort of axillary language.Not sure if it's international, except "lol" and "OMG", there are hardly understood by non native-english speakers. It's more a simplified english. The same thing exists for french.
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I don't think internet slang is really a language, since users who speak the same language may type very differently on the internet. In other words, the slang "dialects" are way too different from each other to be considered a single language of any sort. That being said however, I do see that English is the clear dominant language of the internet. A quick look at YouTube easily demonstrates this. English is also the official language of aviation.
My feeling is that if any language were to become an international language, English is would be most likely be it. This is not so much because the English language has any real merit, but more because of the fact that the infrastructures for English language education are already in place. English is the most commonly taught second language in the world, and has already become the dominant language in many arenas (internet, aviation, just to name a few), so it would be difficult to get every country to switch to another language. Maybe a few decades ago, it was more common to see Vietnamese children learning French or Finnish children learning Swedish, but nowadays, second language education has given enormous preference to English.