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Made a site, now what to do...

by ceigered, December 2, 2008

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ceigered (User's profile) December 2, 2008, 1:42:55 PM

Sal' fellow Esperantistoj!

I've made a wikispace site dedicated to Australian Esperantists, but also to Esperantists worldwide (specifically lernantoj). Only, I have no idea what to do now. If I unlock permissions so everyone can edit it, then it will just get vandalised by Ido'ists* ridego.gif (don't we love them?). But, if I don't do anything then the only practice learners will get is 'UNDER CONSTRUCTION' (Konstruata).

Nonetheless:
http://auxstralianesperantisto.wikispaces.com/

Any advice is admirable, I should add that it looks like English-speaking Esperantists who want to join and help construction can, but I have to figure out if speakers of other languages can help too (don't know if the interface can change so).

So, advice, help, etc would be great. Note that I'm not making a site teaching Esperanto from the core beginnings, so I don't think having the '16' rules up everywhere is useful - I'd like something for budding esperantists (e.g. myself) to be able to read to practice their skills, a 'break' from the nurturing lernu learning environment. Also, Esperantists need a bit of variety too ridego.gif

*I don't actually EXPECT to have the site vandalised by Idists, in fact they probably won't mind at all, I'm more worried about bored 15 year olds in the middle of class at school deciding to edit all the articles...

ceigered (User's profile) December 2, 2008, 1:48:08 PM

Oh yeah, forgot to add: When I get 'round to learning some Lojban I might make a sister wikispace, DON'T FLAME ME FOR USING THE WORD 'LOJBAN'!
*changes facial expression to something friendlier*
Dank' lango.gif

Rogir (User's profile) December 2, 2008, 2:50:02 PM

Once I become moderator typing lojban will result in an autoban... it already has 'ban' in it. But that day is far away.

Oh, and by the way, it's Idist, not Ido'ist.

ceigered (User's profile) December 2, 2008, 3:07:07 PM

Rogir:Once I become moderator typing lojban will result in an autoban... it already has 'ban' in it. But that day is far away.

Oh, and by the way, it's Idist, not Ido'ist.
Ha ha ha ridulo.gif I'm worried now that when you become moderator you'll have autobans for all non-esperanto conlangs ploro.gif *sheds a tear for the poor Lojbanistanis*.

But thanks for the word 'Idist', I wasn't sure how to spell. Funny that the Esperantist's nemesis* isn't in the Vortaro.

*I use this term lightly....

mnlg (User's profile) December 2, 2008, 3:25:05 PM

My dictionary says "nemezo", but I guess you could say something like "ĉefmalamiko", "kontraŭegulo/kontraŭegaĵo", or something of that effect.

Miland (User's profile) December 2, 2008, 4:35:04 PM

ceigered:Funny that the Esperanto 'nemesis' isn't in the Vortaro.
Which one? I just put 'nemesis' in the online one here and got Nemeso. (Wells has Nemezo, as in the dictionary that mnlg cited)

hiyayaywhopee (User's profile) December 2, 2008, 6:02:42 PM

You really have issues with malicious Idists trying to sabotage anyone's attempts to learn Esperanto? The worst I've seen is people just trying to speak Ido to me.

I'd leave the wiki open and just issue an IP ban to whoever starts being a problem.

erinja (User's profile) December 2, 2008, 6:11:42 PM

I have never heard of an Idist sabotaging an Esperanto website. They aren't really like that.

Regarding the title of the site, is it meant to be a combination between Esperanto and English? It seems like it should be either "australianesperantist" (English) or "auxstralianaesperantisto" (Esperanto). They both mean Australian Esperantist.

I am a little confused about providing things for people to read. That's something available online in abundance. As a beginner, I made extensive use of Don Harlow's Esperanto literature site:
http://donh.best.vwh.net/Esperanto/Literaturo/lite...

I understand that you don't really know what to do next. Maybe you could go around online and find existing pages that you think would be helpful to beginners, and providing links to them. That is a quick way for you to generate some content, without a lot of effort or knowledge.

ceigered (User's profile) December 3, 2008, 5:14:19 AM

erinja:I have never heard of an Idist sabotaging an Esperanto website. They aren't really like that.
I was just being silly - I don't think they would either.
Regarding the title of the site, is it meant to be a combination between Esperanto and English? It seems like it should be either "australianesperantist" (English) or "auxstralianaesperantisto" (Esperanto). They both mean Australian Esperantist.
I've taken out the 'a' from Aŭstraliana and made it a compound word, but I'm starting to think that 'AŬSTRALIAESPERANTISTO might be a fairer name considering 'aŭstraliana' doesn't seem to be in the dictionary and aŭstralieserantisto doesn't flow as a compound word.

And by 'Esperanto 'nemesis'' I was referring to Idists rido.gif, but the subtle humour obviously failed me, I'll edit that just to make it clearer what I meant (the word 'idist' isn't in the Lernu vortaro last time I checked)... But thanks anyway mnlg and miland for the suggestions for 'nemezo'/'nemeso'. And I haven't actually got a problem with Idists... Just to clear that all up...

Anyway back to the retpaĝo, I'll take your advice Erinja and start linking to other sites first, and then I'll work on translating articles or anything I think someone would like to randomly come across.

ceigered (User's profile) December 3, 2008, 5:20:53 AM

hiyayaywhopee:I'd leave the wiki open and just issue an IP ban to whoever starts being a problem.
I don't think Wikispaces allows users of free accounts to do stuff that complex malgajo.gif... What would be EXCELLENT is if Wikispaces allowed users to define custom permissions for separate pages rather than on a per-user base, that way you could have like a 'sandbox' for people to throw ideas into etc, but that doesn't seem to be an option at the moment. Currently the only way to get people other than the admin editing is by making them become members which is rather tedious, but means you don't have bored teenagers like myself mucking around on the site.

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