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Volapük Wikimedia

de Momomomomo, 2008-decembro-23

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Momomomomo (Montri la profilon) 2008-decembro-23 13:32:51

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias
How on earth did this happen? Volapük has 9320 more articles than us! I thought no one even spoke that anymore.

ceigered (Montri la profilon) 2008-decembro-23 14:25:35

Momomomomo:http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias
How on earth did this happen? Volapük has 9320 more articles than us! I thought no one even spoke that anymore.
http://arnomane.wordpress.com/2007/12/28/the-bot-e...

Basically the most part of the articles were initially generated by bots and have had some small amount of people working ever since. Volapük is spoken, but by (as you can imagine) a small amount of people - trouble is, wikipedia says on its volapük article that only about 20-30 people speak it, but in reality it would be much more (at least 100+). The only two speakers I have heard in real life though were on a British interview (with bulgarian subtitles) and the only spoken Volapük I heard was a poem about volapük (the author of which was very proud of himself for reciting it clearly, not that anyone really cared rido.gif)

So I guess you could say the number of articles to the number of speakers is dispronportionate, apparently it was a stunt to get people re-interested in the language (not really a bad idea, kinda smart in a way, but many seem to see this as 'advertising' as if Volapük is some form of retail giant).

ceigered (Montri la profilon) 2008-decembro-23 14:25:36

*sorry accidentally sent the message twice somehow!*

Oŝo-Jabe (Montri la profilon) 2008-decembro-23 16:58:03

Actually the most generous guess at the number of speakers of Volapük is 35. The quality of the two Wikipedia's is different even if the Volapük Wikipedia comes out on top in article count. For example at List of Wikipedias by sample of articles, one finds that at the last count Volapük is missing 736 of the 1000 articles that every Wikipedia should have, where the Esperanto one is missing only 3. In addition the average article size for Volapük's articles is 1,769 (len/wt.chars), versus Esperanto's 6,115.

Of course, statistics can be made to say almost anything...

danielcg (Montri la profilon) 2008-decembro-23 22:59:53

Statistics are like thongs: they show almost everything, yet they hide the most interesting.

Regards,

Daniel

Oŝo-Jabe:
Of course, statistics can be made to say almost anything...

ceigered (Montri la profilon) 2008-decembro-24 05:25:23

danielcg:Statistics are like thongs: they show almost everything, yet they hide the most interesting.

Regards,

Daniel

Oŝo-Jabe:
Of course, statistics can be made to say almost anything...
Ha ha! In Australia that wouldn't make any sense ridego.gif (thongs are sandal-like footwear downunder)

EL_NEBULOSO (Montri la profilon) 2008-decembro-24 08:02:57

Hi,

the issue of the vast Volapük Wikipedia was discussed before (I also wondered about it), they have some kind of a program that generates new articles e.g. description of a city. You just put in some values (number of inhabitants, area, mayor) and the program puts these things in the right context and creates a new article...

Therefore, one person who works a lot on writing the articles can create thousands or tens of thousands of them.

Gerald

hiyayaywhopee (Montri la profilon) 2008-decembro-24 18:20:32

Just to play devil's advocate, the Espranto wikipedia also has a disproportionate share of bot articles, though it isn't nearly as bad as Volapük's.

Oŝo-Jabe (Montri la profilon) 2008-decembro-24 19:10:27

hiyayaywhopee:Just to play devil's advocate, the Espranto wikipedia also has a disproportionate share of bot articles, though it isn't nearly as bad as Volapük's.
If my results from hitting the 'hazarda pagxo' (and Pad fädik) button are correct. Then 2 out of 10 of the Esperanto Wikipedia are bot articles, versus 10 out of 10 being bot articles on Volapük Wikipedia. (However a larger sample size would probably be desirable for better results.)

enwilson (Montri la profilon) 2008-decembro-24 20:48:49

Oŝo-Jabe:If my results from hitting the 'hazarda pagxo' (and Pad fädik) button are correct. Then 2 out of 10 of the Esperanto Wikipedia are bot articles, versus 10 out of 10 being bot articles on Volapük Wikipedia. (However a larger sample size would probably be desirable for better results.)
One estimate says that one bot is responsible for over 3/4ths of the wiki's content. The current article says that of the 110,000+ articles on Vükiped, 106,000 pages are (mostly bot) articles about cities. Ho ve...

The long and the short of it is that most Wikipedia bots are made to seed the content of a given Wikipedia. The bot on Vükiped was designed to seed the language. Interesting stunt, but I don't think it drew right type of attention.

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