mnlg:

ceigered:I take it that those who celebrate Chrissie on January the 7th belong to a denomination that uses the old calendar, yes?

There is no mention in the Bible of the day when Jesus was born, and also, as you point it out, there have been changes in our calendar in the past centuries. Christmas has been celebrated at different times in the past, sometimes even on the spring equinox (late March), which sort of makes sense if you consider the beginning of spring as the beginning of the year, and that we count years from the birth of Jesus.

When I read Ceigered's comment about the old calendar, I thought he was talking about the shift from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar, which resulted in Thursday, 4 October 1582 being followed by Friday, 15 October 1582. Places that continued to use the Julian Calendar would gain more than that 10 day difference, due to a different leap year system. Thus, the modern 13-day difference between January 7th, and December 25th. The users of both calendars celebrate Christmas on ~their~ December 25th so after the year AD2100, it will be celebrated on January 8th, in Julian Calendar regions.

though no dates are mentioned there are a few time refrences mentioned, such as who was king of this nation and of that nation. but by tracking the stars "backwards" some have made good cases for september and also sometime in the spring