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Oŝo-Jabe (הצגת פרופיל) 5 בינואר 2009, 03:11:06
RiotNrrd:Unfortunately, "mal" is definitely a prefix, and "et" is definitely a suffix, so a word like "etmala" (to distinguish between the two possible meaning combinations of these two affixes) is off the table - it is grammatically incorrect.I've seen the word 'inseksa' before, which uses as '-in-' as a prefix. I think 'etmala' would just be a compound word formed from 'ete mala', which is technically correct...
vejktoro (הצגת פרופיל) 5 בינואר 2009, 05:59:20
mnlg (הצגת פרופיל) 5 בינואר 2009, 16:20:12
Oŝo-Jabe:you might use 'ega'..."ega" is closer to 'extreme', more than just 'large' or 'big'. However I have noticed that in the spoken language the constructs with -eg- are becoming more and more coincident to the forms "tre X". For instance, I would say that "malvarme" means cold, "tre malvarme" very cold and "malvarmege" freezing cold, but it is getting more and more common to use "malvarmege" to mean just "very cold".
Fortunately we still have "treege malvarmege" if we really need that
danielcg (הצגת פרופיל) 5 בינואר 2009, 16:48:17
Regards,
Daniel
mnlg:Oŝo-Jabe:you might use 'ega'..."ega" is closer to 'extreme', more than just 'large' or 'big'. However I have noticed that in the spoken language the constructs with -eg- are becoming more and more coincident to the forms "tre X". For instance, I would say that "malvarme" means cold, "tre malvarme" very cold and "malvarmege" freezing cold, but it is getting more and more common to use "malvarmege" to mean just "very cold".
Fortunately we still have "treege malvarmege" if we really need that
mnlg (הצגת פרופיל) 5 בינואר 2009, 17:06:55
danielcg:"Estas frostige" or "Estas glacimalvarme", could be other ways of saying "it's freezing cold", without necessarily resorting to hairsplitting nuances about "tre" and "-eg".You missed my point. "tre" and "-eg-" are not the same. However in the spoken language they are becoming the same. I can't say I am ecstatic about it. And that is my point.
erinja (הצגת פרופיל) 6 בינואר 2009, 16:38:30
So please don't take this as a blanket statement that it's ok to use prefixes and suffixes and suffixes as prefixes. In the case of "etmala", this doesn't even make sense. Being a little bit opposite?
In Esperanto, the order of affixes carries meaning. A "varmegulo" is a person who is very hot, and a "varmulego" is a hot person who is big.
Even if you wanted to freely mix prefixes and suffixes, and use them all in any place in the world, in the vast majority of cases, you will find that Esperanto prefixes don't lend themselves to being put after suffixes. The meanings turn out nonsensical. This is perhaps why some of these things are prefixes and not suffixes, but I have no specific knowledge about how those decisions were made.