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What makes a language easy?

od DaDane, 23. januar 2009

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vejktoro (Prikaži profil) 26. januar 2009 12:54:59

ceigered:
qwertz:
ceigered:
HTML
-widely spread: yes
good point, HTML is probably THE most widely spread 'language' ever at the moment.
So.
Can you guys speak with one another in HTML?

ceigered (Prikaži profil) 26. januar 2009 16:19:15

vejktoro:
ceigered:
qwertz:
ceigered:
HTML
-widely spread: yes
good point, HTML is probably THE most widely spread 'language' ever at the moment.
So.
Can you guys speak with one another in HTML?
Well unfortunately[/i][/u][/s], there is a severe shortage in the HTML lexicon for words pertaining to actual useful everyday activities. Unless you're a human web browser.

Maybe JavaScript/ActionScript would be better for everyday communication?

But this makes me want to create a conlang based off of HTML, despite the fact it will probably be the nerdiest conlang ever.

Heck, me just talking about this is nerdy... okulumo.gif
And no I am not seriously considering backing JavaScript as an IAL...

Rogir (Prikaži profil) 27. januar 2009 14:04:43

The problem with html is that it usually needs two steps of comprehension, one by your web browser and one by a human.

Miland (Prikaži profil) 27. januar 2009 14:48:12

OK, what's html for Saluton? (It can't be 'Hello World' because that's C lango.gif ).

Rogir (Prikaži profil) 27. januar 2009 15:02:02

It would be (html), and ĝis would be (/html).

vejktoro (Prikaži profil) 27. januar 2009 15:20:35

100 rem Shouldn`t this be BASIC?
110 PRINT "Oh no!"
120 rem Ceigered, what have we done?
130 GOTO 110

darkweasel (Prikaži profil) 27. januar 2009 15:32:12

SuperMarc92:French:
Pronounce like spelling: NO
Well, what exactly is "pronounce like spelling"? Pronounciation is MUCH easier in French than in English, where you have to learn it for every word. (For example, I once pronounced "reliable" "re-li-e-bl" instead of "ri-laj-bl") While in French, if you know the rules, you can always pronounce a written word even if you never heard of it before. (So far - in 2,5 years of learning French - the only words I know of that don't seem to follow the rules are "femme" and "suspense")

So I think this can well be set to YES.

ceigered (Prikaži profil) 27. januar 2009 15:52:58

vejktoro:100 rem Shouldn`t this be BASIC?
110 PRINT "Oh no!"
120 rem Ceigered, what have we done?
130 GOTO 110
I know we've started a discussion about programming languages, right when I've completely forgotten all my Actionscript! (although I must say thank you because I've remembered that I have to revise my AS)

And is it just me or did you just create a perpetual loop of 'oh no!'? rido.gif

All this random computer related talk is reminding me of some article (or maybe a sentence on Wikipedia) about the implications of Esperanto with computer programming or something like that. So maybe it should be asked if an easy language would be easy for a computer too? I mean, given the lack of irregularities and simple grammar, Esperanto should be simple and quick to process by a computer when compared to something like German or French. However pronunciation would be troublesome, as Esperanto has stress (therefore word boundaries etc have to be considered).

Actually, Chinese is probably one of the easier languages for a computer to pronounce:
http://www.nciku.com/search/en/detail/Esperanto/... (look at the 'examples' section and press the speaker next to the chinese).
Pity that isn't the same for most humans too. okulumo.gif

SuperMarc92 (Prikaži profil) 27. januar 2009 20:37:26

darkweasel:
SuperMarc92:French:
Pronounce like spelling: NO
Well, what exactly is "pronounce like spelling"? Pronounciation is MUCH easier in French than in English, where you have to learn it for every word. (For example, I once pronounced "reliable" "re-li-e-bl" instead of "ri-laj-bl") While in French, if you know the rules, you can always pronounce a written word even if you never heard of it before. (So far - in 2,5 years of learning French - the only words I know of that don't seem to follow the rules are "femme" and "suspense")

So I think this can well be set to YES.
Ok, so what about :

- ville (vile), fille (fiye)
- aquarium (akouariom)
- temps (tan), champs (chan)...
- baptiser (batizé)
- the 's' a the end of plural words aren't pronounced and the a lot of words are silent
- mot (mo)
- er, ai = é (or è lango.gif)
- etc...

Frankouche (Prikaži profil) 27. januar 2009 21:47:45

darkweasel:
SuperMarc92:French:
Pronounce like spelling: NO
Well, what exactly is "pronounce like spelling"? Pronounciation is MUCH easier in French than in English, where you have to learn it for every word. (For example, I once pronounced "reliable" "re-li-e-bl" instead of "ri-laj-bl") While in French, if you know the rules, you can always pronounce a written word even if you never heard of it before. (So far - in 2,5 years of learning French - the only words I know of that don't seem to follow the rules are "femme" and "suspense")

So I think this can well be set to YES.
The word "oiseau" [ŭazo] (bird) in french is funny because none of its letters o-i-s-e-a-u are pronunced as in the alphabet. okulumo.gif

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