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Lernu t-shirts

של erinja, 16 בינואר 2007

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שפה: English

erinja (הצגת פרופיל) 18 בינואר 2007, 14:01:45

What about lernu! related stuff? Are you guys interested only in general "Esperanto-wear", or would you want to wear something more closely related with lernu (although any shirt we produce will contain at least the lernu! address, written small)? What do you think of the old shirt design (similar to the "international smiley faces" on the lernu advertising posters: http://en.lernu.net/pri_lernu/informiloj/afisxo.ph... ) Like the smileys, hate them? What about the idea of having "ridetu kaj lernu" (or some other short slogan) written in many languages on a shirt?

awake (הצגת פרופיל) 18 בינואר 2007, 15:08:33

I'm not a huge fan of smiley faces as a design, too wal-mart. I would probably prefer options of general esperanto wear, but I think some nice lernu centric designs would be great too. Maybe a Picture of Zamenhof, or a globe with all the countries with Eo associations (or speakers, but that would pretty much be all the countries ridulo.gif colored or some such thing with "Lernu!" on the front could be very nice.

I would also suggest that rather than writing a tiny "http://en.lernu.net" on the front, that one could have whatever designs on the front that were popular , Then the web address of lernu on the back in legibly large letters. If you're going to advertise the site on the wear, it should be visible from reasonably afar. If it fit with the design on the front it could also be written under some designs. It just shouldn't interrupt the flow of whatever else is being communicated.

erinja:What about lernu! related stuff? Are you guys interested only in general "Esperanto-wear", or would you want to wear something more closely related with lernu (although any shirt we produce will contain at least the lernu! address, written small)? What do you think of the old shirt design (similar to the "international smiley faces" on the lernu advertising posters: http://en.lernu.net/pri_lernu/informiloj/afisxo.ph... ) Like the smileys, hate them? What about the idea of having "ridetu kaj lernu" (or some other short slogan) written in many languages on a shirt?

nw2394 (הצגת פרופיל) 19 בינואר 2007, 19:21:38

I tend to agree with the previous thoughts. I think one should promote Esperanto and then have the lernu address (Doesn't necessarily need to be small).

Smiley faces and such like are perhaps a good idea for kids, but the more adult of us - well - you know.

Nick

erinja (הצגת פרופיל) 20 בינואר 2007, 02:30:27

Point taken! Do you guys have any ideas for a lernu!-centric idea not including smiley faces? Because I've been relaying some of this forum's ideas back to the team, and the consensus seems to be that there are plenty of t-shirts around that generally promote Esperanto (in fact, CafePress is full of them - though you need to be careful not to pick one with poor grammar on it), and they want a design that is focussed on our website, rather than on Esperanto in general. Actually, I don't really like the smileys that much myself (perhaps having something to do with an early draft of the smiley design, in which the black face looked like it came off a minstrel show - which the Europeans didn't seem to realize looked extremely offensive to American eyes), but on the team there seems to be support for sticking with the smiley design.

I would like to present a viable alternative to keeping the smiley design, since I haven't heard a single vote in favor of the smileys yet, and since the voices I've heard from the team so far have seemed strongly in favor of keeping the smilies. The more discussion we get here, regarding viable alternatives, the better. I suspect a shirt will be offered with smilies anyway - and to be fair, the site does have some younger users (I have definitely had some at Ana Pana who were aged 13 and younger, as young as 9 or so, I think). But I agree that cartoony stuff isn't everyone's cup of tea.

What about something centered around the lernu logo? Or a more 'text-centered' design, having a design either made of text, or including a lot of text (in a graphic way) rather than a lot of pictures?

Incidentally though, cafepress stores are not that hard to set up, so if someone has a good idea that they want to see in a shirt, I really encourage you to go ahead and set up the site. The effort is almost zero once you have the graphics.

Mythos (הצגת פרופיל) 20 בינואר 2007, 02:53:40

I've been thinking about this... The t-shirts are to make people want to know more about Esperanto (how to learn it), and to help identify anyone you see walking down the street that also speaks EO.
The t-shirt needs to say (not literately of course - though that would be cool) "Hey, I speak Esperanto! Ask me about it, or go to this URL to learn more!".
I like the idea of some clever phrases in EO, with the Lernu! URL below. Maybe something like "[Looking] For a good time, goto: lernu.net" (have Zim with a big grin next to it).
Has anyone else noticed that CafePress uses a green star on a white background as their symbol? Coincidence?

RiotNrrd (הצגת פרופיל) 20 בינואר 2007, 02:55:27

I think that a catchy phrase is important, as mentioned previously.

"Esperanto parolata ĉi tie", coupled with the Lernu! logo might be a nice combination, for example.

"Por kio atendas vi?" and the logo, maybe?

Because the logo is in the form of a cartoon speech balloon, perhaps just a picture of Zamenhof "saying" the logo? Although most pictures of Zamenhof have kind of a "kooky" look to them, due to his 19th century east-european appearance. That might be alright, though.

Anyhow, just a couple of thoughts that occured to me.

erinja (הצגת פרופיל) 20 בינואר 2007, 03:05:56

Mythos:I've been thinking about this... The t-shirts are to make people want to know more about Esperanto (how to learn it), and to help identify anyone you see walking down the street that also speaks EO.
The t-shirt needs to say (not literately of course - though that would be cool) "Hey, I speak Esperanto! Ask me about it, or go to this URL to learn more!".
I like the idea of some clever phrases in EO, with the Lernu! URL below. Maybe something like "[Looking] For a good time, goto: lernu.com" (have Zim with a big grin next to it).
Has anyone else noticed that CafePress uses a green star on a white background as their symbol? Coincidence?
LOL I like the "for a good time" idea, though I wonder if it only comes out that funny in English. Somehow "Por bona tempo, iru al www.lernu.net" doesn't sound that funny.

Mythos (הצגת פרופיל) 20 בינואר 2007, 03:21:41

I thought of another phrase, though for this one you would want the text to be in different languages.
Top: Lernu! (nice and big)
Middle: "Yesterday I talked with people from Africa, Asia, Europe, North America, South America and Oceania; how about you? lernu.com" (meant to represent everyone in the continents on earth).
Bottom: A picture of the earth with the continents prominent.

I'm trying to stay away from Zamenhof's head, I have a feeling that if people started wearing that then others might think that he is worshiped, rather then admired (plus *I* wouldn't buy a shirt with a real person's face on it).

Mythos (הצגת פרופיל) 20 בינואר 2007, 03:29:01

erinja:
LOL I like the "for a good time" idea, though I wonder if it only comes out that funny in English. Somehow "Por bona tempo, iru al www.lernu.net" doesn't sound that funny.
That was a fear of mine, thought I thought I would "Run it up the flag-pole and see if it flew" to use something else in English that won't translate well.

awake (הצגת פרופיל) 20 בינואר 2007, 14:19:42

I think the "for a good time" idea is the cutest one yet. It's playful with just the slightest hint of being risque. I don't see what's wrong with an english centric shirt. Perhaps someone could post in the other national language forums to see if there is a similar idiom (or similarly cute ones).

Mythos:
erinja:
LOL I like the "for a good time" idea, though I wonder if it only comes out that funny in English. Somehow "Por bona tempo, iru al www.lernu.net" doesn't sound that funny.
That was a fear of mine, thought I thought I would "Run it up the flag-pole and see if it flew" to use something else in English that won't translate well.

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