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Designing Rosetta Stones for future civilisations

de Miland, 2009-majo-31

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Lingvo: English

Rogir (Montri la profilon) 2009-junio-01 23:23:14

Knowing that people learn Esperanto by the Rekta metodo, the ideal way would be to put a video registration of a complete course on your stone, plus some literary works. However, there are some practical problems there. But why not engrave a lot of granite sheets with a book version of the Rekta metodo, and then add a literary classic to it (Vivo de Zamenhof perhaps?).

Miland (Montri la profilon) 2009-junio-02 09:20:11

Rogir:..granite sheets with a book version of the Rekta metodo..
The point of a Rosetta stone is that ancient languages can be reconstructed using known ones, like ancient Egyptian via Greek. But I've set up a new thread on rektaj metodoj.

ceigered (Montri la profilon) 2009-junio-03 08:12:33

It seems that the biggest problem any future people would have trying to rebuild society and learn Esperanto at the same time would be trying to get the right sounds. For example, if you had never seen the latin script before, how do you know what all the different pronunciations are? It's like seeing "Hello" being written as "4#?@£".

So without a way of ensuring the pronunciation of the alphabet stays the same, we could end up with 'ĉirkaŭ' being pronounced "vkalom" (if you use your imagination, "ĉ" could be the shape of the bottom lip against the top two teeth, 'i' could be the drawn representation of a click like sound etc).

Which could present some problems. "scias" could be seen as being "ĥbkoĥ" or whatever, and no one wants to pronounce a consonant cluster that crazy (unless they were already used to it).

Miland (Montri la profilon) 2009-junio-03 09:42:13

ceigered:It seems that the biggest problem any future people would have..would be trying to get the right sounds. For example, if you had never seen the latin script before, how do you know what all the different pronunciations are?
That's true, in fact any Rosetta stone relies on there being some continuity between the languages of the makers and those who find it.

Rogir (Montri la profilon) 2009-junio-03 12:04:18

Then how about adding an illustrated IPA chart?

ceigered (Montri la profilon) 2009-junio-03 13:33:32

Rogir:Then how about adding an illustrated IPA chart?
with, say, diagrams on where the tongue goes etc?

I was thinking that we just wait for the future and improved technology and do something like what you said somewhere about having a video form of the course.

Additionally, just like how large developers of software generally make regular snapshots of the current version they are working on, similarly you could make "snapshots" of the rosetta stone things for each time a new technology is implemented, and that way you will still be producing a large amount of them (therefore easier to find) but also be constantly improving them

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