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Esperantst (Profil megtekintése) 2009. június 4. 16:51:37
). I think in the history the Sabath was the seventh day of the week. Now (I dont know why) we have the Sunday, but it have the same funcion. You dont work. So I prefer the sunday as seventh and last day of the week. 
jchthys (Profil megtekintése) 2009. június 4. 17:06:36
Esperantst:My English is no so good but i will try (I prefer EsperantoStrictly speaking Sunday is not sabbath; Saturday is (the Jewish sabbath). The New Testament refers to "the first day of the week" as the day being after the Jewish sabbath, which we assume to be Sunday.
jan aleksan (Profil megtekintése) 2009. június 4. 17:45:21
friday: muslim day
saturday: jew day
sunday: christian day
monday: first day
...
thursday: fourth day
Would it be convenient?
Note that in the case of the
sexagesimal calendar, there is no problem. The first day of the week is always the 22th of december, then 22th december +7, etc...
I don't know if it will ever be accepted, but I like the idea.
Senlando (Profil megtekintése) 2009. június 4. 19:34:46
jan aleksan:I suggest this idea:too controversial, what happens if someone isn't part of any religion? also some Christian denominations celebrate the sabbath on Saturday too. I think it would be safer to sick with numbers or the atheist will demand a day for themselves, along with ever other religion in the world.
friday: muslim day
saturday: jew day
sunday: christian day
monday: first day
...
thursday: fourth day
Would it be convenient?
Note that in the case of the
sexagesimal calendar, there is no problem. The first day of the week is always the 22th of december, then 22th december +7, etc...
I don't know if it will ever be accepted, but I like the idea.
i don't know does this have anything to do with the names, but I always took the "mon" in Monday to mean 1, as in mono. the "Tues" in "Tuesday" to mean 2. and lets skip Wednesday and Thursday, since they don't seem to work (maybe in another language?). the "fri" in Friday, always reminded me of 5 (maybe because of the "F" looks like "fifth") and the "s" in saturday reminded me of "six". also they corespond to the days of the week in mandarin.
I personally think that the mandarin was probably taken from English (or European languages that share similarities in the weeks) because both English and mandarin have "Sunday" (or week sun).
also Saturday and Sunday are considered "weekends" in many cultures. So i think that Monday should be day 1 of the week, and instead of "sun" like in mandarin, Sunday should be day 7.
this won't correspond with some cultures and religions, since both Christians and Jews believe that Saturday is the 7th day according to the Bible (even though Christians choose to celebrate the sabbath on Sunday, since that's when Christ rose from the dead). but like the Chinese have their own lunar calendar and also use the international calendar, i think Christians, Jews, Muslims and every one else should be able to adjust to the international names of the week, while having their own names for their own religious use.
unutago
dutago
tritago
kvartago
kvintago (Sankt-tago or Jumuahxo? for the Muslims)
sestago (Sankt-tago or Sxabato? for the Jews)
septago (Sankt-tago or Sxabato? for the Christian denominations, who celebrate on septago, and not sestago)
or am I asking for too much cooperation?
jchthys (Profil megtekintése) 2009. június 4. 20:19:02
☼ Sunday = sun (Esperanto’s word seems to be related to ‘domingo’ and ‘dimange’ which is I think from ‘the Lord’s day’)
☽ Monday = moon (cf. lundo)
♂ Tuesday = Tiw’s day = Mars (cf. mardo)
☿ Wednesday = Woden’s day = Mercury (cf. merkredo)
♃ Thursday = Thor’s day = Jupiter or Jove (cf. ĵaŭdo)
♀ Friday = Freya’s day = Venus (cf. Vendrero)
♄ Saturday = Saturn’s day (Esperanto went with Italian and Spanish in choosing sabbath here)
I have even seen the above symbols listed in an older dictionary as abbreviations for the days of the week (after I came up with the same idea independently
).About the sexagesimal calendar: I like a non-perpetual calendar because I like my birthday (and other holidays) to fall on a different day of the week each year.
erinja (Profil megtekintése) 2009. június 4. 20:50:36
jchthys (Profil megtekintése) 2009. június 4. 20:54:10
erinja:Note that "Saturday" and "Sabbath" are not synonymous for the Jews, since the secular day (which begins at midnight) does not coincide with the Jewish day (which begins at sundown). There is a utility in keeping religious words and secular words separate in this case, since they don't actually mean the same thing.They do, however, begin all their days at sundown (separately from the Gregorian/ISO calendar). So the seventh day in their week corresponds to Sabbath.
Abii (Profil megtekintése) 2009. június 4. 21:20:14
I think numbered days and months are a great idea*. You wouldn't ever have to learn the order, if you can count, you know what comes after what.
*This won't ever happen, but I don't think there should even be weeks or months. Every day should be 1 out of 365. Dates would be like, 65/09, or Day 65 of 2009 Year (AD).
jchthys (Profil megtekintése) 2009. június 4. 21:29:12
jan aleksan (Profil megtekintése) 2009. június 5. 14:02:12
jchthys:Especially in Europe, workers in business number the weeks of the year (from 1 to 52). And some calendars I have seen number the days from 1 to 365, so there must be a use for that.well, sometimes people uses the week numbers, for example to set a meeting, or in academic calendars. Number of days are very hardly used. It's just to add an added value to the calendars, and justify it's price ^^.
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