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How do you pronounce Psikiatro?

de ZOV, 2009-aŭgusto-19

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ZOV (Montri la profilon) 2009-aŭgusto-19 08:52:10

Would it sound like the way the PS sounds in English??

Miland (Montri la profilon) 2009-aŭgusto-19 08:57:01

ZOV:Would it sound like the way the PS sounds in English??
I believe it would not - it would be more like the first two letters when you say 'Psss..' But, in my view, if you pronounced it as if it were 'sikiatro' you would probably be understood.

Matthieu (Montri la profilon) 2009-aŭgusto-19 09:06:15

In Esperanto you must pronounce every letter, so you must say “ps”.

ZOV (Montri la profilon) 2009-aŭgusto-19 09:25:36

Miland:
ZOV:Would it sound like the way the PS sounds in English??
I believe it would not - it would be more like the first two letters when you say 'Psss..' But, in my view, if you pronounced it as if it were 'sikiatro' you would probably be understood.
Yes you are most likely right, but it seems so hard to say the PS seperately...Why did they even need to have the P in front of the S for this word?

Miland (Montri la profilon) 2009-aŭgusto-19 09:27:54

ZOV:..it seems so hard to say the PS seperately...Why did they even need to have the P in front of the S for this word?
I sympathise. More practice!

erinja (Montri la profilon) 2009-aŭgusto-19 10:48:54

ZOV:... but it seems so hard to say the PS seperately...Why did they even need to have the P in front of the S for this word?
It preserves the recognizability of the word. You can see "psikiatro" and easily identify that it's a psychiatrist. "Sikiatro" doesn't give you that instant recognizability at all. And PS together truly isn't that hard to pronounce. You probably do it all the time. Tops, crops, tipsy, etc

It is a tad more difficult to say ps in isolation, but when you were a kid and you had a friend who really needed to go to the toilet, didn't you ever sit there and say "pssssss psssssssss pssssss" just to drive them crazy?

Also, in case you weren't aware, the psych- root comes from Greek, and the ps sound would indeed be pronounced as ps in Greek (spelled with the Greek letter psi, with a fully pronounced p)

Rogir (Montri la profilon) 2009-aŭgusto-19 11:11:32

Stop complaining and just pronounce it, we Dutch have no problems with it even though it only appears in a few Greek-derived words.

russ (Montri la profilon) 2009-aŭgusto-19 11:35:43

I think you can easily learn to say "ps" at the start of a word.

Say "oopsy-daisy" or some such word several times.

Now say just make the lip/mouth motions of the beginning "oo" without actually expelling air, so that you don't actually say "oo". Then you can quite making the "oo"-motions, and simply directly say "psy".

A similar technique works for other "difficult" or unfamiliar consonant clusters. E.g. many beginners complain about the word "scii". English has the "sc" sound, just not at the beginning of words. E.g. "nests". Say "nests are pretty", then get rid of the initial "ne": "sts are pretty".

ceigered (Montri la profilon) 2009-aŭgusto-19 12:25:22

Rogir:Stop complaining and just pronounce it, we Dutch have no problems with it even though it only appears in a few Greek-derived words.
Don't get me started on Dutch phonology lango.gif.

And while I think he said it a tad harshly, I somewhat agree with Rogir - your mind is your enemy, tell it who's boss by overcoming it and pronouncing it even though it seems hard rido.gif

gyrus (Montri la profilon) 2009-aŭgusto-19 15:23:24

Try saying the German word Pflichtfächer. See? It could be worse.

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